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Stage, we have exited, and as a result, the world is a less safe place. and i think what he's saying shows strength and conviction. where do you stand on that? >> remember, you're a guy who taught me about what barack obama said in the past and got me to care about what he said in the past. what somebody says in the past makes a difference. i agree. >> i will say this. i agree with you on this. cnn played an old clip of mentha year ago saying if i'm on the other side, you know who the person i agree with the person i respect on the other side? bernie sanders. and it's the same thing. we are so...

Does what we just heard sum up her mission? >> i think you did. i think what is causing all the controversy with cheryl is that she wants women to step up and she wants to say although there are institutional barriers, and although there is sexism, she wants women to say i'm going to put up my hand, i'm going to pursue my career with more vigor, more aggression. and that's controversial because a lot of people think that what is holding women back is that the men aren't giving us a break, we have too much to do at home, obviously if you have children, the maternity laws in america are incredib...

Stage, we have exited, and as a result, the world is a less safe place. and i think what he's saying shows strength and conviction. where do you stand on that? >> remember, you're a guy who taught me about what barack obama said in the past and got me to care about what he said in the past. what somebody says in the past makes a difference. i agree. >> i will say this. i agree with you on this. cnn played an old clip of me about 6 or 8 months ago, maybe a year ago saying if i'm on the other side, you know who the person i agree with the person i respect on the other side? bernie sanders. and i...