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The bidens. >> he says -- in part of the call, they say it's going to affect the 2020 election. it just goes on and on. listen, we don't know exactly what they said because part of it was inaudible, but it doesn't really play well for the tone of it for rudy giuliani. so, listen, giuliani told our dana bash that the voicemails are helpful because it shows that they don't do anything dishonest. you know, he also has -- he also says that $200,000 that he needs is for another project in another country, and the project has nothing to do with ukraine or trump. i mean all he would say is that it's,...

The bidens. >> he says -- in part of the call, they say it's going to affect the 2020 election. it just goes on and on. listen, we don't know exactly what they said because part of it was inaudible, but it doesn't really play well for the tone of it for rudy giuliani. so, listen, giuliani told our dana bash that the voicemails are helpful because it shows that they don't do anything dishonest. you know, he also has -- he also says that $200,000 that he needs is for another project in another country, and the project has nothing to do with ukraine or trump. i mean all he would say is that it's,...