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House it starts kicking. in 50 employees it kicks in. and the costs are ratcheting up quickly. $2,000 fines for not providing obama care. the penalties are onerous for a small business in particular. >> bill: okay. so do you believe that that has constrained people from even starting up businesses or is it just kind of like we're not going to hire anymore people? >> we can't really tell on job creation, bill. job creation is running, you know, it slipped a little bit, about 5% or 6% over the course of the last couple of years. overall job creation remains at very high levels. up near the level...

House it starts kicking. in 50 employees it kicks in. and the costs are ratcheting up quickly. $2,000 fines for not providing obama care. the penalties are onerous for a small business in particular. >> bill: okay. so do you believe that that has constrained people from even starting up businesses or is it just kind of like we're not going to hire anymore people? >> we can't really tell on job creation, bill. job creation is running, you know, it slipped a little bit, about 5% or 6% over the course of the last couple of years. overall job creation remains at very high levels. up near the level...

I know paul ryan i worked shoulder to shoulder to him. government is taxed already, we shouldn't spend more money than we take in and abide by the constitution. that is mitt romney's message. that is paul ryan's message. that is in the republican party platform. we've succeeded wildly. we can get behind the ticket and see our principles go forward. i ran on a signature issue which is the full scale repeal of the president's healthcare plan. mitt romney has fully embraced that repeal mets average and he has told me, fac face-to-face, michelle i will repeal the president's healthcare plan, that ...

>> greg: four words. "i won't be him." the economy is now become like the economics. it's a spectator sport. people are on the couch, sitting it out for two reasons. they don't have confidence in the economy. small businesses aren't hiring. number two, they have extended unemployment benefit. the economy is getting screwed from both ends. try not to make a joke out of that, bob. >> eric: i thought you were going to. >> greg: saw it coming. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, mitt romney delivers ultimatum for the senate democrat leader >> harry reid has to put up or shut up. harry, who are you...

>> greg: four words. "i won't be him." the economy is now become like the economics. it's a spectator sport. people are on the couch, sitting it out for two reasons. they don't have confidence in the economy. small businesses aren't hiring. number two, they have extended unemployment benefit. the economy is getting screwed from both ends. try not to make a joke out of that, bob. >> eric: i thought you were going to. >> greg: saw it coming. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, mitt romney delivers ultimatum for the senate democrat leader >> harry reid has to put up or shut up. harry, who are you...