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Martha, so -- the fact that they moved it up would tell me a couple of things. they probably were able to come to an agreement pretty quickly on something and must have felt they did not have any disagreement, right. so, i would imagine they are coming out in a united front where the president will have some sort of deliverable to talk about, it's interesting to see what it was like to get the measure of everybody in person rather than on a zoom call or through their national security advisors. i think they have such important decisions to make at this pivotal moment, one month into the war as...

Not only rod rosenstein but at times it looked to me he just wanted to take on the whole justice department, the f.b.i., everybody else and say you guys are tearing america apart. i think that's what he said. the russians aren't losing, america is losing because this goes on and on and divides us. i think part of the point. there is no question. the russians intended to divide us and played to the existing divisions. >> sandra: should mueller wrap it up? >> at this point you want him to do an exhaustive, complete and accurate investigation. >> sandra: the point is it has gone on a long time. >...

1973. nine years after we initiated that war on poverty, it dropped to 11%. it has gone up since then simply because we lost our will to continue to fight the war. president johnson told us from the beginning that it will be long and it wouldn't be easy. the fact of the matter is the moment you start quitting, the moment you face obstacles, you aren't losing, you're just quitting. we were absolutely winning the war on poverty. i can show you places in south carolina and families like mine that is proof of that. >> why do you think we stopped the fight? what was behind it? >> elections. every t...