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Strong opinion about donald trump and his presidential claims. so she is a really interesting nominee. it's going to be hard for folks who voted for her last time to flip this time. >> let's talk about what this is going to mean for the supreme court, and what it currently means. the decision right now to retire by justice breyer, dahlia, pete was saying usually you don't take presidential politics into consideration, but that times have changed. what is your reporting or what can your reporting tell us? >> i mean, in some sense, this must be breaking justice breyer's heart more than anyone. h...

You're absolutely right. he could put out more information. >> what we're hearing from the president from the oval office, this is partisan. and then a few minutes later, i don't know who the whistleblower is. you would expect that the inspector general would have before determining this complaint credible figured out if this was simply based on partisan politics, right? >> right. i mean the inspector generals of different agencies are supposed to just look at the facts they have, right? they aren't partisan. they are independent from that. but the chain of command is the inspector general can...

>> off two million jobs created, 200,000 have been in manufacturing. what about the factories have been shut down or repurposed or sitting there as an eye sore as a reli a relic of times gone by? they're saying some people are college material, go get your four-year degree, but some people should have -- they want to have a high school degree and a skill certificate. >> that's great. you will incentivize all kinds of labor and that's great. you should. >> this is important. this is nonpartisan and infrastructure should be very nonpartisan or bipartisan. >> the tax bill was inherently partisan....

Republican or democrat, next november. chris: but to -- do you see a difference in the president and roy moore on the one hand and pushing out conyers and franken on the other and democratic leaders demanding that they leave? >> i think that everybody's got to be accountable. so i, i think those that aren't -- i mean, there are, obviously, you've seen sitting at this table republicans are calling for this man to step down. and republicans have even criticized the president for what he did. i think we know what our values are. i think we know what we stand for, and i think the american people a...

Be held accountable next, republican or democrat, next november. chris: but to -- do you see a difference in the president and roy moore on the one hand and pushing out conyers and franken on the other and democratic leaders demanding that they leave? >> i think that everybody's got to be accountable. so i, i think those that aren't -- i mean, there are, obviously, you've seen sitting at this table republicans are calling for this man to step down. and republicans have even criticized the president for what he did. i think we know what our values are. i think we know what we stand for, and i t...