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Republican or democrat, next november. chris: but to -- do you see a difference in the president and roy moore on the one hand and pushing out conyers and franken on the other and democratic leaders demanding that they leave? >> i think that everybody's got to be accountable. so i, i think those that aren't -- i mean, there are, obviously, you've seen sitting at this table republicans are calling for this man to step down. and republicans have even criticized the president for what he did. i think we know what our values are. i think we know what we stand for, and i think the american people a...

Be held accountable next, republican or democrat, next november. chris: but to -- do you see a difference in the president and roy moore on the one hand and pushing out conyers and franken on the other and democratic leaders demanding that they leave? >> i think that everybody's got to be accountable. so i, i think those that aren't -- i mean, there are, obviously, you've seen sitting at this table republicans are calling for this man to step down. and republicans have even criticized the president for what he did. i think we know what our values are. i think we know what we stand for, and i t...

About a long-term deficit problem. we've got a deficit problem right now that you can deal with right now with taxes. going up on this particular bloc. that is not a small thing for the deficit right now. that's what we're talking about. >> oh, i know. >> we have to deal with the short-term deficit and a long-term one. >> that's why i've said around this table republicans should be more responsible about bringing in more revenue. but i will be damned if i will support any tax increase that is not met with serious spending cuts. and no party, republicans -- >> agreed. >> -- or democrats ever pu...

Ironically come to mind. they haven't been republican since ronald reagan and that carries to ohio and indiana and pick up for democrats and they win back virginia and north carolina and win back florida. again, that is the run of the table republicans envision. but given the tightness of the polls, is it out of the realm of possibility? >> it is not. ask ourselves where is obama. if he is at 45 or 46 or 46, and he's in deep trouble it said the country that knows him well is prepared to replace him. the problem is to mitt romney. if he comes off in the three debates as someone who is acceptabl...

Be held accountable next, republican or democrat, next november. chris: but to -- do you see a difference in the president and roy moore on the one hand and pushing out conyers and franken on the other and democratic leaders demanding that they leave? >> i think that everybody's got to be accountable. so i, i think those that aren't -- i mean, there are, obviously, you've seen sitting at this table republicans are calling for this man to step down. and republicans have even criticized the president for what he did. i think we know what our values are. i think we know what we stand for, and i t...