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There's not a single person in the room other than mark judge who said he dependent want to testify. i didn't want anything to do with it. i wanted to make that clear. you can go on. >> what we saw, you can't look in isolation. the reason judge kavanaugh is so upset this is a pattern. john mccain who just passed away, may he rest in peace, 2008 democrats made him out to be the great satan. >> hold on. wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. i don't think democrats -- i worked on the other side of that campaign. we have two people who worked on the campaign. john pierre a much higher level to be sure. th...

Are treated through the years are coming into the open and people are feeling free to finally talk about it. you have two things happening at once. one thing i feel for judge kavanaugh, and i know the republicans that i heard talk feel the same, we feel so much sadness for him and for dr. ford for having to go through this, if these aren't true. i thought he was very compelling. what's happening, what happened with jeff flake being attacked, how can you vote for him, i was sexual assaulted, those are two separate things. we don't minimize your pain, we don't minimize your trauma, we as society...

Somebody who aspires to be a supreme court justice testifying under oath to be completely honest and to be convincingly honest. and i just don't think brett kavanaugh met that standard by a long shot yesterday. >> hold on, jack. you'll get to respond now. since susan asked for it, we visit. we're going to go through some of kavanaugh's statements that aren't true. here he claims that he didn't break the law when he was drinking in high school at 17. watch this. >> the drinking age was 18 in maryland. for most of my time in high school and was 18 in d.c. for all of the time in high school. the ...

The problem is by lying about these little issues it undermines his overall general credibility. so i do think that it's not too much to expect for a supreme court justice especially one who is testifying under oath or someone aspires to be a supreme court justice under oath to be completely honest and convincingly honest. i don't think he met that standard by a long shot yesterday. >> it's not just that he didn't. >> hold on, jack. you'll get to respond now. since susan asked for it it, we have it. we'll go through some of his statements that aren't true. here he claims he didn't break the la...

They are anonymous. hard to put weight on those the same way. we'll talk about it. one from 1985. one from 1998. anonymous. the latest two claims being that way, you have to look at them as not carrying that much weight. at least not now. they were enough for the senate judiciary committee to ask kavanaugh about them. because we have gotten the copy of the transcript or part of the transcript of the dealings with him. remember, what kavanaugh says to that fox reporter that's not a crime. if he says things that aren't true. if he doesn't tell the truth to the senate staffers, that's different. ...