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To keep calling it out and keep making it clear when something isn't true, and i think it's important to stay outraged. so a lot of times i see people rolling their eyes and sort of saying oh, that's just trump being hyperbolic when in fact he's lying about something. so i think it's important to continue to say that and not get lulled into this idea that this is normal. i think one of the problems like you said, people believe it and then they repeat it. oftentimes when you're trying to have a conversation perhaps on your show or another show and you're talking to somebody who is just, they'r...

Analyst michael and harry litman. good evening to you. a whole lot to get to tonight. you heard what michael avenatti said and you heard some of the tapes, the entire tape we played here on cnn. so, giuliani appeared on fox news earlier tonight. here's what he said about the tapes. >> in any event, i don't think anyone can suggest that this represents anything where the president did anything wrong. that's the reason why we waived it. would we have put it out had it not been leaked, no we wouldn't have put it out. i've dealt with much worse tapes than this. >> is that all just spin from giulia...

Would we have put it out had it not been leaked, no we wouldn't have put it out. i've dealt with much worse tapes than this. >> is that all just spin from giuliani? is that the reason why they waived privilege on this tape? >> it's lousy spin and, you know, it's lousy spin on top of lousy spin because when it came out friday, he told two whoppers about the tape that we now know aren't true. nobody could believe -- a prosecutor could believe that this is clearly the president and his -- and cohen conspiring to pay hush money in violation, not only of election law, but also wire fraud and bank f...

That. they have been saying things about russia that aren't true. well -- >> well john brennan suggests the president was treasonous in the helsinki summit with putin. >> you can criticize. i think that given what we know and i saw that's over the line in terms of what's provable. at the same time, john brennan is former cia director speaking from his own experiences and expertise. okay. he's entitled to that opinion and to explain that opinion. you get to criticize public officials in this democracy. that's how it works. >> sabrina, two of the six people mentioned by the white house, james co...

Us and pretending to solve the crisis. >> jeff, at this point is the president just trying to get off the topics of last week? in this tweet storm overnight, he was still talking about michael cohen. he was talking about amazon and the post office. i mean, he was carrying on about different issues all week. it's not a focussed approach to getting us all onto a different topic. >> no, it's not a focussed approach. you mentioned the tweets about michael cohen, about the fisa warrants for carter page. the president also tweeting about north korea the reports that suggest he's upset about the lack...