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With donald trump. >> so i guess if you're biden, kirsten, do you want to do anything, or do you just let this ride for a while until you really have to get out there on the campaign trail? >> well, i think it would be better for him to be out there a little more than he is, but it's still very, very early, and i don't think -- i suppose if you're on his campaign, you might be thinking the less he's out there, the less likely he's going to make a gaffe or say something problematic -- >> can i jump in here right now? >> yeah. >> i hear that whole gaffe thing, and i know what everyone means by t...

Trust in one another and, you know, we used to have political fights in this country that were about ideology and about issues and now they're about the fundamental nature of truth. that's a bad place for us to be as a political culture. >> i want to hammer home here, gloria, there are a lot of people out there, particularly in trump's base, that will fall for this doctored video. they fiwill think it's real. what do you see as the impact? >> well, look, i think it's already had its impact in many ways. we're talking about it, aren't we? what we did at the beginning of the segment was great be...

For research associated for the search of extra terrestrial life. why aren't we spending more money in space? >> we are spending money in spent. there's just no ets running around. we need to watch our keys for ufos. that means a lot of things. spy ships. nowadays people are building things in their own garages. you can put a drone 50 feet in the air and zoom in and see what's going on. >> in recent years -- i'm not just talking about ufos. i don't believe in aliens aside from my co-workers. >> me. yeah, yeah. >> there's a lot of money cut from our nasa program and research. and i think that a...

Treated with love and they're going to be able to integrated into society. and so they get their court date. because they have proven that they have a credible fear of persecution and death. >> i know. but it is the backlog and lack of judges. >> i get it. why aren't we employing more judges? why aren't we putting more structures in place instead of denying what the problem is. look, brooke, i said this before and i'm going to say it again, the insatiable demand for drugs in america is what fuels the strength of the drug cartels. these are american weapons, american dollars that come from amer...

By the conservative movement to do this, and it's a reminder of how the democrats were asleep at the switch in state legislatures. >> that's totally right. along with that what you now see is governance by red or by blue depending on the makeup of the state. >> we're going to start to see blue states cod few parts of roe, aren't we? >> absolutely. i think going back to your conversation with tim ryan, the reason that we need governors and state legislators and senators is to protect against this very thing. >> do you wish tim rooen had run for governor? >> i do. it begs the question of why som...