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Or whether or not we appeal. when donald trump says we're going to if he cuss on my base, everybody says what's he thinking, it's so narrow-minded. whether joe biden is the person or not, i don't know. whether it's this gaffe thing or not -- it's too much of a catch-all. when you say gaffe, i-week up this morning and i didn't know what day of the week it was, it took me a minute to remember i got to get in the car and thankfully there weren't reporters around and i wasn't giving a press conference. there's a difference between that and someone saying -- you know, race, is a problem with the wh...

Doing politics where you aren't criticizing your opponents, or at least attacking your opponents on foreign soil. so i think it gave him a good opportunity to contrast himself with donald trump. >> so i guess if you're biden, kirsten, do you want to do anything, or do you just let this ride for awhile until you really have to get out there on the campaign trail? >> well, i think it would be better for him to be out there a little more than he is, but it's still very, very early, and i don't think that -- i suppose if you're on his campaign, you might be thinking the less he's out there, the le...

With donald trump. >> so i guess if you're biden, kirsten, do you want to do anything, or do you just let this ride for a while until you really have to get out there on the campaign trail? >> well, i think it would be better for him to be out there a little more than he is, but it's still very, very early, and i don't think -- i suppose if you're on his campaign, you might be thinking the less he's out there, the less likely he's going to make a gaffe or say something problematic -- >> can i jump in here right now? >> yeah. >> i hear that whole gaffe thing, and i know what everyone means by t...

Gaffe thing, getting carried away. i think he does that more often in crowd it's. >> and speeches. >> he is pretty goods in the debates and against palin last time around. >> i think there is -- it's a fascinating debate because there is no clear favorite. i could see either man winning. bide pid has the foreign policy experience. but paul ryan is on his home turf, on the big issues of the day, the economy, jobs and entitlement reform. that's what make this is so fascinating. biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is up to joe biden. we will be looking for...

You don't want joe doing his gaffe thing, getting carried away. i think he does that more often in crowd it's. >> and speeches. >> he is pretty goods in the debates and against palin last time around. >> i think there is -- it's a fascinating debate because there is no clear favorite. i could see either man winning. bide pid has the foreign policy experience. but paul ryan is on his home turf, on the big issues of the day, the economy, jobs and entitlement reform. that's what make this is so fascinating. biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is up to joe ...