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Some of it will be what are our policies. emphasize how they help religious racial minorities and immigrants. the second part is reorganizing the policy priorities. >> we were talking about what an important article this was. you and i are going to have disagreements on the size and the scope of the federal government and what the federal government should do. i would tell you if you're talking about starting 100 federal new programs i would say let me show you evidence of how this does not help the disadvantaged in the long run if that's all we're doing. and if the left and the right aren't y...

Mcconnell who for procedural reasons hasn't cast his vote yet, there's still time left tonight. and people are talking. i will note people have had the opportunity to talk, and people have spoken throughout the course of the day with the same deadline intact. and they haven't reached any kind of deal yet up to this point. but the discussions are actually happening, and we're going to have to wait and see if they will actually lead to anything. >> you said there's still time, phil. what do you mean? >> reporter: well, it's 11:00 p.m. the government shuts down at 12:00 p.m. i think one of the in...

There have not been a lot of at least rigorous talks between the two parties. senators schumer and mcconnell have spoken by phone at least one. other than that, there hasn't been a lot of communication between them or their offices. they're obviously all talking right now, but i think they've gotten to the point right now whereas brian pointed out, the issues for democrats haven't just changed. it's not a date change type of issue in terms of how long a short term funding bill would be. this he want very specific policy proposals, very specific commitments. those are commitments republicans ar...

Right now, there are -- the only answer i say is to put some competition in the v.a. >> but what's scary, what if there was no growing outrage, because generally, vets by their nature don't complain. they're too modest to complain. if people like us aren't yelling, would he even respond? >> that's the point. he already knew about this to begin with, if we're supposed to be giving the veterans the best they have, because they have earned this right to have excellent medicare and health care, right? this is failure on the part of the united states to deliver this to them. the president should ha...

Right now, there are -- the only answer i say is to put some competition in the v.a. >> but what's scary, what if there was no growing outrage, because generally, vets by their nature don't complain. they're too modest to complain. if people like us aren't yelling, would he even respond? >> that's the point. he already knew about this to begin with, if we're supposed to be giving the veterans the best they have, because they have earned this right to have excellent medicare and health care, right? this is failure on the part of the united states to deliver this to them. the president should ha...