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would _ was that there would be a pandemic would he _ was that there would be a pandemic would be plausible but it may take weeks _ would be plausible but it may take weeks to— would be plausible but it may take weeks to months. it obviously didn't take months. when did you begin to realise _ take months. when did you begin to realise that — take months. when did you begin to realise that it would be sooner than had been _ realise that it would be sooner than had been foretold at that 29th of january— had been foretold at that 29th of january meeting of cobra? | had been foreto...

Activists point out, there's still a lot you've got to leave in the ground, and we don't start to make progress until we start leaving stuff in the ground. >> i think natural gas is an important fuel source, it's a domestic fuel source. i think we have to be very careful about how we take it out of the ground. taking things out of the ground is inherently dangerous and can be bad for the environment. there will be a point where you can't continue to grow the use of natural gas. where you actually have to bend the curve down. that means we have to continue to create opportunities for renewables...

>> other stuff. so this is a big, big chunk of it. >> one of the themes in the president's speech was natural gas and how important natural gas has become to the american economy. are you bothered by the fact that the white house seems, a, so gung ho about natural gas, that they view it as a bridge fuel, when many climate activists point out, there's still a lot you've got to leave in the ground, and we don't start to make progress until we start leaving stuff in the ground. >> i think natural gas is an important fuel source, it's a domestic fuel source. i think we have to be very careful abou...

Why do they win? why do they get more? >> because democrats are undisciplined. seriously. we just don't bring the fight. over and over. >> i think it goes back to some of the personality differences between conservatives and liberals we talked about in the last segment. conservatives, study after study, tend to believe in an eye for an eye. democrats tend to say, hey, let's figure out a way to solve this problem. >> and this process obsession, right? >> yes. and you and i have had this argument debate before. is this problem here process or substance? it's like, i don't care. this is will to p...