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Piece of that where meadows speaks on that call. the first voice that you hear is not meadows and it is the lawyer who works with the state of georgia. >> i'm happy to sit down and have our lawyers sit down and the lawyers on that side and explain to him, hey, here -- based on what we looked at so far here's how we know this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong. >> so what you're saying, ryan. hold on, let me make sure. so what you're saying is you really don't want to give access to the data. you just want to make another case on why the lawsuit is wrong? >> i don't think we ...

Let me make sure. what you're saying is you really don't want to give access to the data. you just want to make another case on why the lawsuit is wrong? >> i don't think we -- i don't think we can give access to data that's protected by law. but we can sit down with them and -- >> but you're allowed to have a phony election? you're allowed to have a phony election, right? >> no, sir. >> reporter: so that's the type of evidence that the judge, the federal judge hearing this argument section tomorrow, is going to be looking at, potentially as well hearing from the multiple witnesses, including ...

Significant possibility that manafort was going to be sent to jail. and certainly by the time they finished with the argument section, which lasted maybe a little bit over an hour to an hour and a half, we saw the fbi agents conferring out in the hall in what seemed to me to be them making some preparations for what was going to come next for mr. manafort. i don't think they knew exactly, but i think they had a sense of what was coming. so certainly very tense. it was the most packed courtroom i've seen there for any manafort hearing since his arraignment last october. and the judge gave sort ...