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Too expensive, the moderates argue. too risky against trump, they added. >> when we win run on real solutions things that are workable not fairy tale economics. >> this is a wish list economics. >> what i don't like about this argument right now, what i don't like about it at all is that we are more worried about winning an argument than we are winning an election. >> warren and sanders may well be in each other's way down the road but last night they were a center stage tag team, swatting back the moderate attacks, rebutting the fairy tale argument with the idea it is past time for democrats ...

Argumentability argument. that puts pressure on joe biden tonight to be a stronger moderate, if you will, to make a more passionate case. moderates tried last night. several might be gone from the race within days. to warren and sanders, one of their biggest points was you cannot pass your version of medicare for all, that would take away employer-provided health care. you would be telling people who like their health care, 180 million people in america get their health care from america. you would be telling them we're pulling that away from you. here are the moderates making the case, bad id...

Campaign. for now it's too early to say if voters will swallow this big change or not. biden has to make the case for why it's too much. >> it's way easier to make this argument if you are senator sanders or senator warren against john delaney than joe biden. it's relatively low political risk to cast john delaney in the role of joe biden, which essentially happened. the guy barely cracked one percent. i think this was voters' introduction to john delaney. joe biden is a former vice president. we'll have to see if he does better tonight. theoretically, he should be more skilled at debates. the...

Inspired and why that, not the kind of policy questions that dominated last night's debate, is the kitchen table of the moment. there's actually a big wing of democrats who believe that's a true argument that democrats should be making. >> to your point, she may be at 1% or 2% in the polls. whatever she has she takes from somebody else and may keep them from getting into the debate. she forces the other candidates to be different. do not discount the power of different. one said donald trump would never succeed. i'm not saying she's going to take off and win the nomination but people are looki...

Democrats regurgitate those and her answer on immigration, she pulled a little bit from julian castro there, but it's one that i think can be effective. she was saying this change in decriminalizing border crossings, measures on the books will still make it so you can prosecute illegal border crossings. it doesn't open up the borders and it tackles that piece of the law that allowed the trump administration to separate families. >> she has been pretty unscathed by them in a little while. >> she got their attention without a doubt. much more to talk about it. debate times are fun. ten more cand...