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All right. so russia is now ready to talk prisoner swaps, according to its foreign minister. this comes just a day after brittney griner was convicted in a russian court of drug smuggling and sentenced to nine and a half years in a penal colony. the u.s. is hoping to get griner and another american, paul whelan, out of russia by swapping them for convicted russian arms trafficker, viktor bout, also known as the merchant of death. so why does russia want bout back so badly? and what exactly will happen to griner while negotiations are playing out? former cia chief of russian operations steve ha...

Prisoner swaps, according to its foreign minister. this comes just a day after brittney griner was convicted in a russian court of drug smuggling and sentenced to nine and a half years in a penal colony. the u.s. is hoping to get griner and another american, paul whelan, out of russia by swapping them for convicted russian arms trafficker, viktor bout, also known as the merchant of death. so why does russia want bout back so badly? and what exactly will happen to griner while negotiations are playing out? former cia chief of russian operations, steve hall, joins me now. steve, you know, my fir...

It's hard for things to be out in the open like this. the kremlin understands that the biden administration is under pressure, and all of society to bring britteny and paul home. >> i think one of the questions the administration doesn't want brittney griner back, they want paul whelan back, that's been there for significantly longer. it's made clear they have offered viktor bout, the former arms dealer. bout has been an objective of the kremlin for a long time. do you see that being possible? or is the u.s. going to consider someone else? >> viktor bout is a huge arms trafficker. he had the l...

The russian arms trafficker, victor boot. but officials will keep pressing for his release. this is a portrait of the so-called justice in russia. in america, there was another big update about justice, for breonna taylor. we'll have more on that, next. t, next. ks] [dog panting] [dogs barking] [dogs growling] [dogs whimpering] (vo) the subaru crosstrek. dog tested. dog approved. [dog barks] for too long, big pharma has been squeezing americans for every penny, and inflation has only added to the pain. but congress has a historic opportunity to deliver relief, by passing a bill to let medicare...

Substantively to, a quote, serious offer that the u.s. -- in june for the arms trafficker viktor bout. this is a portrait of so-called justice in russia. here in america, there was another big update about justice for breonna taylor. we'll have more on that, next. save $500 on the sleep number 360 c4 smart bed queen now only $1,299. lowest price ever. with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood. ♪ feel the difference with downy.