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Back in 2006. but a point that was raised to me by a former prosecutor was that to the extent that michael cohen did anything illegal with this payment to stormy daniels, violated an election law, violated an ethical rule, could be disbarred over this, it could give mueller some leverage in some way to get michael cohen to either flip or to be more cooperative than he is now. so, if there is any connection between these two stories, it's possible in that. and so if the noose is starting to tighten around mueller, we could see potentially happen what happened with flynn, what happened with gate...

Violated an ethical rule, could be disbarred over this, it could give mueller some leverage in some way to get michael cohen to either flip or to be more cooperative than he is now. so, if there is any connection between these two stories, it's possible in that. and so if the noose is starting to tighten around mueller, we could see potentially happen what happened with flynn, what happened with gates, where mueller gets a little in on him and is able to pressure him into becoming, if not a cooperating witness, certainly more cooperative than he has been to this point. >> jill, shannon said mu...

2006. as we've reported, daniels is now suing president trump to invalidate a nondisclosure agreement on the grounds that the president never signed it. the white house has repeatedly denied that president trump had an affair with daniels. michael cohen has said the payment came from his own personal funds and not the trump campaign or the trump organization. cohen's attorney commented on the president's remarks tonight, saying, quote, this is an accurate assessment of the facts. this is exactly what i've been saying all along. michael cohen made the payment to protect reputation, family, and ...

Cohen, say that the reason that the amount was paid was to protect president trump's reputation. that suggests that it could be related to the election when it comes right on the eve of election, as it did. >> go ahead. phil. and let me ask -- let me pile on a two-part question for you. the first one about the level of concern about potential campaign finance violations and the second about the assessment in sort of people who are expert in this area of law, that this is so much more flagrant than things that have brought down other politicians, like john edwards, whose trespasses were many, m...

So he may be in for even more indictments and a longer life sentence in jail, if he doesn't start cooperating. so, i would say it's all part of a power play to get him to cooperate, and i think that you are right in saying that cohen may be the next to flip, because of the pressure on him. and he's going to lose his law license, he is going to lose his biggest client. and so he may have to start cooperating, too. so it's really interesting, if you look at the answer and the case was argued yesterday in court, and the judge seemed very skeptical of manafort's arguments for dismissing the case. ...