The only reason i know i'm holding is when i got out in the street i still had it in my hand so somehow i got my knee up and pushed him back and the minute he backed up i was out the door. >> joining us, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama also an msnbc legal analyst. joyce, thank you for joining us tonight and i know you also read the second by second detail that e. jean carroll provides in her "new york magazine" article description as well as what we heard tonight. with the elements you heard described tonight and wa you read her describe in the article, what is it tha...