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Talk about, but maybe we need to put some forces into moldova. again, not nato forces, not a battle group like we've done in the baltics but maybe a coalition of the willing of the european countries that will put forces into moldova to make sure he doesn't go in that direction. it's -- we -- i think we probably need to do more in terms of stingers to take care of the aircraft. stingers have their limitations. we're not going to send them patriot missiles and this type of thing, but we need to do more on air defense. and the final thing i would say is the eu was thinking of working with romani...

Chernobyl power plant. that's up here just north of kyiv, but it's all part of that main route the forces came down. how close they are, we don't know, but it looks like when we thought the big push was coming last night and it's almost nightfall in kyiv, it may come tonight. we just have to wait and watch. and then lastly, neil, i just want to show you one more thing and that's the big picture. president biden clearly meeting with nato leaders, discussing the ramifications of if, indeed, putin were able to succeed and extend russia, he's already got belarus, he comes along ukraine and takes t...

Already three battle groups, one in each of the countries, that's a small force but a very significant force. much more than symbolic because if they set foot across those borders and attack on one is an attack on all. that's the article v, that's the co cornerstone. >> you've served under both republican and democratic presidents. a remarkable dynamic here that as russia invades a sovereign country without provocation, we have americans cheering putin, praising him, including a former president in trump, former secretary of state praising putin's savviness, mike pompeo who served as cia direc...

Presidential adviser who says he thinks they will achieve concrete results in the next few days. i wonder why the optimism. what do you think? >> well, the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy, said in an interview yesterday that he is now cooling to the idea of joining nato. he says nato doesn't want them. if you talk to nato officials, they'll tell you privately they cannot take on board as a member a country that is even partially occupied, much less in the middle of a full-blown war, because it immediately triggers that article v, which means all nato nations would have to help them ex...

Those are very, very long interior lines. so i believe that we do need to outpost the baltics. i believe we need low combat power into poland and i believe we have plans to do just that. that is a requirement. article v is sacrosanct and those are signatory to that pledge. so at risk, yes, but we have mobile combat power and we start thinking about return of forces to germany, but this time, further east. >> it's a brave new world, a harrowing new world. major general, paul eaton, thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. thank you very much. still to come this hour, another ukrainia...