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But it was this russian attempt to punch through which was such a disaster, a battlefield disaster for the russians. they have been trying to punch through at various locations along this very long front line that extends all the way to kharkiv in order to capture the city where i am here in kramatorsk. but this was the aftermath of the latest battle and the russian disaster. the first signs of a russian disaster, a russian tank being salvaged by ukrainian troops. a few days ago this was the scene on the edge of these woods, russian pontoon bridges under ferocious ukrainian artillery attack. t...

Tank being salvaged by ukrainian troops. a few days ago, this was the scene on the edge of these woods. russian pontoon bridges under ukrainian artillery attack. the ukrainian commander with us casts an eye to the sky looking for russian drones. this is no place for complacency. ukraine and nato have claimed that russia suffered badly here. they estimate 70 to 80 vehicles destroyed and a whole russian battle group of 1,000 men mauled. >> we're at the edge of the area where the russian army was caught after it had crossed the pontoon river. there's a destroyed tank. next to it, an armored perso...

And loss of life. as an extra indication of the suffering, you're right, he said some of the people within these areas, close to these mass graves have been made to work and help with the burial of all of these bodies in return for food and water, from the russian forces. at a time when no other aid has been getting in there to help these people. now, we don't know how many people have died in mariupol. the devastation is obviously extraordinary, logically the number is going to be large. the best guess can only be an estimate and the estimate from the ukrainian government is around 20,000 peo...

Going to start earlier. listening to the president today, very subjectively talking about what might happen, that tells me we're reading the russians' mail. i think he's got exactly what the synchronization events are and seem to be occurring in sequences, first the limited cyber attack in ukraine, that's the russians seeing what would happen, then the attack, artillery attack on the school how ukrainians would respond, then the attack, the false flag operation and later today, not mentioned was the bombing of the pipeline in lahanska i think it was, it all leads to something, the taking of al...

Sequences. first, know, the cyberattacks -- limited cyberattack in icrukrai. that is the russians seeing what would happen. then, the artillery attack on the school to see how the ukrainians would respond. then, the attack -- the false-flag operation and then later today, not mentioned, was the bombing of the pipeline i think it was. it all leads to something. the taking of the refugees out of the area. all these things are telling me that, yeah, something could certainly happen. the president said, hey, we are still -- the potential for diplomacy and to stop this -- there is a potential just ...