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And that's what i'm going to cling to right now. when i think about where america is headed. because donald trump is not the future of this country. >> and richard, you know, donald trump sort of is the human embodiment of the backlash against president obama. he compares everything from his inauguration crowd size to the way he thinks obama was lotted when he desperately wants to. is there a lesson for your party, for the republican party in the way the party reacted to barack obama's ascend ency? did that help to produce this sort of almost hysteria and backlash of hate politics? >> well, ye...

Running, particularly the lead. leaders. how will they handle him? he has the ability to end any of the front-runner's campaigns if they get in a direct exchange and he come out on top with them. he is talking to a party that has a populous strain in the ascend ency. you see a lot of the anger in that crowd. you have seen the anger he tapped into. and the notion that donald trump isn't going to be a major force in this election and ultimately should he become a third party candidate, i think he ends any prospect of republicans taking back the white house in 2016. >> what about the damage they ...

Traumatic event for the country and in the state. but at the end of the day, for candidate to become the nominee for vice president in either party, it's their flew ency with national security issues with what is happening in the world at a dangerous and precarious time. and their experience level can you navigate that? and i have some experience in this from the 2008 campaign to the political calculation comes down to one of is this person prepared to be in the national command authority? is this person prepared to take the oath of office? should it become necessary which has happened too man...