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Afterwards. now judging by the tone of the bilateral meeting -- at least the read-out of the meeting that putin had with david cameron in london yesterday, whether it came to the issue of syria, it would be surprising if somehow they came out with some break-through about what to do next. as you know, the united states position is try to convince putin that it is in his best interests to essentially push assad out and help keep assad's regime at the negotiating table. it is a tricky deal for the u.s. to sell. we'll see if putin is listening. >> who else might be listening? edward snowden, as y...

Available to syria and potentially to hezbollah and in lebanon to protect themselves. it's a signal militarily to urz and the west and also a big political signal as well that russia is really all in here to keep assad in power. >> eric: there are reports that they will sell more migs to syria. >> it demonstrates russia is not to let assad fall. while secretary of state kerry has spent last several months to persuade russia to sponsor a peace conference in syria, russians are doing everything they can that the result is pre-ordained that assad is not going to step out of power. i think that ha...

America needs to respond now and force president assad out. >> the president is right to be deliberate and cautious and want proof which appears to be there that the red line has been crossed and the syria government used chemical weapons and dromp senator action. it is a red line croshed. we should respond with action that recognizes the serious and intolerable nation with the use of weapons . that should be a no fly zone established with the missiles. we should act under international aupiciouses and arm with lethal weaponry beyond the night vision gogglings that wed so far.

Afghanistan. there is now some really serious questions how these afghan security services are going to fight a group of people when they are so badly infiltrated by sympathizers to those organizations, gregg? gregg: leland, over the weekend we've seen more signs that the regime in syria is beginning to crack. what is the latest? >> well, the big change that we're seeing now is inklings from the russians they're trying to figure out a way to at least put their toe in the water, figuring a way to move president assad out. it doesn't appear at least that the russians have any altruistic values i...

Conventional weapons. so it's not entirely clear to me that this would trigger an automatic response. there is no real obama doctrine here except for passivity, i'm afraid to say. >> helene, if we do get assad out, the united states, other allies, what then? >> well, that's the big -- that's part of the reason why the obama administration has done in the views of many so little toward getting president assad out, and that's because they are just really afraid. syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that...