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He comes from vermont, which is a state that has a lot of guns between both democrats and republicans. what's the difference between you and bernie sanders on that? >> there's a big difference. both of our states have hunting traditions and value our open space and conservation lands, but in our state, i actually led the fight to pass comprehensive gun safety legislation that require background checks, outlawed the sale of assault combat weapons. i feel very firmly that this is a reasonable step for us to take to save more lives. and i don't believe that that is the position of mr. sanders. >>...

Classic reformer. this is what killed him, gun control. it's for real. it can ruin a career. >> but our ability to grow as a people is also for real. our ability to evolve, our ability to look at the fact that our gun laws and the ability for people to purchase assault combat weapons makes us an anomaly in the free world. those are things we're capable of. growing in our understanding of one another and what we can do to put bad guys in jail, protect kids, and have sensible -- >> we meet here in september after this end of this session. do you think we'll have a bill that does something real a...

It can ruin a career. >> but our ability to grow as a people is also for real. our ability to evolve, our ability to look at the fact that our gun laws and the ability for people to purchase assault combat weapons makes us an anomaly in the free world. those are things we're capable of. growing in our understanding of one another and what we can do to put bad guys in jail, protect kids, and have sensible -- >> we meet here in september after this end of this session. do you think we'll have a bill that does something real and is signed? >> i do. >> governor rendell, will we get something done?...

People to purchase assault combat weapons makes us an anomaly in the free world. those are things we're capable of. growing in our understanding of one another and what we can do to put bad guys in jail, protect kids, and have sensible -- >> we meet here in september after this end of this session. do you think we'll have a bill that does something real and is signed? >> i do. >> governor rendell, will we get something done? >> i think we'll have it by the end of february, chris. >> well, that's optimism. i hope we get it done. it'd be great to have as a memorial to these -- i keep thinking wh...