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That sounds closer to normal over the years. with us tonight, retired army general barry mccaffrey, decorated combat veteran of veet nap, former drug czar for this country and these days an msnbc military analyst. general, take them on one at a time, please. and that is what are russia and north korea and their leaders trying to game from this country? >> well, i think they've got a clearer understanding of their own objectives which i think we lack in the united states. by the way, i'm still very much convinced and confident in secretary jim mattis at dod and mike pompeo is an extremely capab...

Four-star army general barry mccaffrey, former battlefield commander in the persian gulf, former drug czar for this country, and these days an msnbc military analyst. general, take them on one at a time, please. and that is, what are russia and north korea and their leaders trying to game from this country? >> well, i think they've got a clearer understanding of their own objectives, which i think we lack in the united states. by the way, i'm still very much convinced and confident in secretary jim mattis at d.o.d. and mike pompeo is an extremely capable person over at state, and gina haspel's...

It is so disingenuous. >> eboni: i think they expected people to fall in the party line and people would rally around it in a cohesive way and it's not happening. people are looking at their constituents and saying i'm going to be accountable and i'm going to be the one to pay a price and they're not going for it. >> eric: can i give you another theory? the leadership on both sides, house and senate, our establishment, old-school republicans that have been there forever. who are the anti-trumper's? old-school establishment republicans. i wouldn't put it past them to say -- >> eboni: you think ...

Votes to block think of them. you can thank harry reid. a simple majority vote for a confirmation below supreme court level. republicans will make full use of reid's full-sighted move. we are talking about james mattis at dod and governor nikki haley and kelly at dhs. one hint of how democrats will attack the nominee, schumer said many of them have made billion of dollars on what they're regulating. keep an eye on that. back to you in new york. >> thank you very much, live. >> nancy pelosi pleading, give obamacare a second look. >> the fact is, it's the old thing of going into a china