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>> nbc has new reporting that this surprise, surprise, could be president trump's attempts to change the narrative. a source directly familiar with the internal polling said the results were, quote, worrisome. steve kornacki is with me, jamal and kristen as well. since you're the pollster in the group, i'll start with you, kristen. go out and lie about their internal polling. and the numbers are around 40%. can you win the presidency with 40%? >> it's extremely early, but you can't spin, i think, numbers thatted about. it would stun me if tony fabrizio said anything publicly. he'll well respec...

[ speaking foreign language ] you don't have to speak spanish to understand what they're saying and the outrage here because salvadorans feel close with the united states who have 200,000 salvadoreans in the united states with temporary protection status that are now facing deportation about 18 months. salvadoreans while aware of their country's problems, this is a poor country, terrible gang violence here, but it's a beautiful place. behind me is an absolutely spectacular scene, a volcano outside of the capital, beautiful beaches here, so people are rightfully proud of their country despite t...

Unemployment rate at 10-year low. manufacturing, construction booming. you know, jobless claims at 28 year low, on and on, i can go on and on. most of the economic numbers are good trump's negatives. that tells me something. that tells me there is a reflex toward the negative. even when numbers that you can't spin are being spun anyway. >> sean: joe, they can spin anything. they lie. that's part of their strategy. byron? >> well, you know, in addition to that 80% figure that you said at the top, which is the overall figure 80% negative, if you look at some of the individual outlets, the number...

Unemployment rate at 10-year low. manufacturing, construction booming. you know, jobless claims at 28 year low, on and on, i can go on and on. most of the economic numbers are good trump's negatives. that tells me something. that tells me there is a reflex toward the negative. even when numbers that you can't spin are being spun anyway. >> sean: joe, they can spin anything. they lie. that's part of their strategy. byron? >> well, you know, in addition to that 80% figure that you said at the top, which is the overall figure 80% negative, if you look at some of the individual outlets, the number...

Because when when you look at unemployment rate at a 10-year low, manufacturing, constructi construction's booming, you know jobless claims at a 28-year low, on and on, i could go on and on, most of the economic numbers are good, and even there, sean -- . >> sean: economic numbers are good. >> even there, sean, president trump's negative, even when numbers that you can't spin are being spun any way,. >> sean: joe, they can spin anything. they lie. that's part of their strategy. byron? >> well, you know, in addition to that 80% figure that you said at the top, which is the overall figure 80% ne...