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But i think the fact that both sides are showing up and the ukrainian negotiations said last week that the russians seem to be very enthusiastic tf thing. as much as they're committing war crimes or violating international humanitarian law by shelling heavily populated centers, hospitals, churches, mosques, you name it, there is, i guess, a part of the russian government that says to themselves, we have to have talks continuing. but,y sad to see that even though these negotiated corridors happen, the russians go ahead and have shelled them as well. it makes people taking part in these humanita...

>> that's why there should be a full investigation as the president said should happen. these were not the people on the president's personal detail. >> it doesn't matter. >> of course, but there should be a full investigation. that's what should happen. >> bill: it's embarrassment. just the embarrassment to the country. >> to the country, right. we are talking about such a key agency here. you cannot afford any kind of mistakes. also, you can't afford this kind of culture. i'm with you. i think that this indicates that there is a serious cultural problem at the secret service which has to be ...

>> that's why there should be a full investigation as the president said should happen. these were not the people on the president's personal detail. >> it doesn't matter. >> of course, but there should be a full investigation. that's what should happen. >> bill: it's embarrassment. just the embarrassment to the country. >> to the country, right. we are talking about such a key agency here. you cannot afford any kind of mistakes. also, you can't afford this kind of culture. i'm with you. i think that this indicates that there is a serious cultural problem at the secret service which has to be ...