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That new york times reporters were being attacked in egypt. should i feel bad about it? that's reality. i wasn't actually -- no one thought i was actually saying that they should take elizabeth hasselbeck and send her over to egypt. actually, she should be kind of complimented because i was putting her on a par with lara logan who we all think is a very attractive woman. so we're kind of saying to the egyptians, the imaginary egyptians who have lara in custody, we'll send you elizabeth hasselbeck because she's also attractive but we don't like her politics. that was all that's behind that joke...

With this atros tee. >> not only was it a joke, it was a good joke and passed in this room, it passed the crew test. while that joke was playing, the crew was cracking up. and that's the ultimate test of any joke. we get the joke, bill. barbara walters explained to elizabeth, no, he was actually joking about your politics. so, you know, barbara gets the joke. >> and i have no ill feelings towards elizabeth hasselbeck. we, you know, we disagree fundamentally on pretty much everything. she's not the kind of person who i would want to have lunch with, nor would she want to have it with me, but we...