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You go here. my argument, having read your article since you're the expert, my argument coming out of it was, you know what, it doesn't hurt to play ball with obama in the interest of your state. your thoughts. >> yeah, absolutely. it helps. and in fact, the chairman of the democratic governors association told me over the weekend it's harder to go after the guys who have taken the money. it takes away one of the key attack lines against them. it's something they can cite. what's interesting, chris, these republicans still are afraid of being seen as too close to obama because they need to kee...

Headlines, i think, is a very dangerous thought. >> christie took that shot in the wake of the house's vote to defund nsa bulk collection of phone records which failed by a narrow margin. christie's attempt to stamp out a growing fire of skepticism among the republican base toward everything from mass surveillance to foreign wars. a base that appears to be moving in a decidedly rand paulian direction. christie, positioning himself as the bona fide neocon alternative. saved his best attack lines for paul and his accolades. >> you can name any number of people who have -- he's one of them. i mea...

Dangerous thought. >> christie took that shot in the wake of the house's vote to defund nsa bulk collection of phone records which failed by a narrow margin. christie's attempt to stamp out a growing fire of skepticism among the republican base toward everything from mass surveillance to foreign wars. a base that appears to be moving in a decidedly rand paulian direction. christie, positioning himself as the bona fide neocon alternat e alternative. saved his best attack lines for paul and his accolades. >> you can name any number of people who have -- he's one of them. i mean, these esoteric i...

That's going through both parties right now and making big headlines, i think, is a very dangerous thought. >> christie took that shot in the wake of the house's vote to defund nsa bulk collection of phone records which failed by a narrow margin. christie's attempt to stamp out a growing fire of skepticism among the republican base toward everything from mass surveillance to foreign wars. a base that appears to be moving in a decidedly rand paulian direction. christie, positioning himself as the bona fide neocon alternative. saved his best attack lines for paul and his accolades. >> you can na...

Money they want, i'm not backing down. >> and you look at the three leaders in the house republican leadership, one's from ohio, one's from virginia, one's from california. and i always emphasize that to people. they do have their eye on the larger ball, it seems, when it comes to this. but let me ask you this question. one of the attack lines that i've heard that could scuttle immigration reform is just the pure cost. >> exactly. >> and some conservative fiscal groups might go at it that way. >> what we're learning about the bill the gang of eight is crafting right now, and it's the border se...