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Elevated and we've been discussing it for days and days and days. this is what they want and the idea we'llmittee hearing, do we think lauren boebert wakes up desperate to get to a committee hearing? of course not. this isn't a punishment. this is a desired outcome. i think actually, don, you raise the correct point which is when you deprive an attention hound of oxygen, you deprive them of the attention that they want. that's a smarter play. >> that's what i do. >> it might be smarter but i just -- we did this with donald trump, right? we faced this same question with donald trump for four ye...

Idea that we're going to strip someone of their committee hearings, i mean, do we think lauren boebert wakes up every day desperate to get over to a committee meeting? of course not. this is no punishment for them. this is the desired outcome. so don, you raise the point, which is when you deprive an attention hound of oxygen, you deprive them of the attention that they want, that's their oxygen, it is probably a smarter play. >> yeah. >> that's what i do. >> it might be smarter, but we did in with donald trump. we faced the same question with donald trump for four years, and we followed up on...

At all giuliani tells nbc news. the president is concentrating on north korea and we're concentrating on the case and we have a good division of responsibility. so rudy giuliani is not working on north korea, the good news, jennifer. >> yes. although he did make statements and the state department had to disown him and say he doesn't speak on north korea for us. so even that he screwed up. the difference between rudy giuliani then and now, i went back and talked to a slew of assistant u.s. attorneys who worked with him at the time and some defense attorneys as well, although he did delegate so...

Cases he tried some of the most high profile ones, probably because he wanted the attention, but he was very good in the courtroom, that was a long time ago. since then he's become an attention hound, ran for president unsuccessfully, he hasn't kept up with the law for i would imagine a very, very long time. so when he says things as he did today like who else would they get? i know the justice department better than anyone else, you have to laugh because that's obviously not the case. now rudy giuliani has made a lot of mistakes, but perhaps the biggest is that he violated the cardinal rule o...