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Just being out of it while somebody is talking about the loss of their child. is he tired? is it he's not listening to them? is his mind somewhere else? what do his staffers tell you? >> his advisers both inside and outside the white house in particular talk about how -- it's two things. sort of the inability to make an emotional connection. feelings don't resonate with him all that well even in moments of tragedy. and you hit upon it, it's an attention issue. he's focused on the next thing and that's the next tweet or what the next cable news segment might be or you know sometimes an importan...

And it generates a new cycle, his campaign loves it. they use that to collect a lot of voter data and energize voters looking forward to 2020. >> picking up on that important point, for this president, it is about the fight, right, and he is going into the re-election campaign and he can say look at me, i am fighting on this critical issue. by the way, he is in wisconsin today, very important state. does he get to go there and make the argument you're saying he backtracked, he's saying this is victory. >> well, it is not victory, it is clearly not victory. you can make the argument that people...

Root.com, msnbc contributor as whistles, stop the bull horns. well. all right. the attacks on me running are i got my florida panel. i got my d.c. panel. all intended quite frankly to no offense, guys, i'm going to further a stereotype about start with my floridians. plaque men, illegal, unethical, adam, you watched this a long time. take things for free, monkey it is florida making this sharp of a left turn as these polls in up, jungle animals. those kinds of things. the last week indicate? it's not hard to understand why >> i'm a little skeptical. i think florida, you just assume neo-nazis w...

The midterms. in fact, his senior advisor stephen miller has indicated they want to roll out a series of tough border security measures in the next few months to try and rally their base. on the other side, senate democratic leader chuck schumer says he wants to help the kids on the border but as blocking any legislation that would actually help the kids. he may be doing that so he can rally the democrats ahead of those midterms. what we saw today was the president reversing himself on the child's attention issue to try and make the negative headlines and images of along the border in the shor...