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Ali? >> retail politics is how he did it all the time. that was the before the part. he could be -- i would almost argue that he was better one-on-one or in small groups than he was on a stage. >> yes, the big stage. >> yes. the big speech was not his strength. it was the town hall meeting format where he would take any question from anyone. he was not afraid to tell reporters and constituents when he disagreed, we've seen that play out in memorable clips. but he could also be funny, and you could see that in the moment. you could see him wrestle with a question he hadn't anticipated, more tha...

Mornings. people said, well, who's watching tv at that time? the answer was kids. >> it was television that put cartoons into the arena or ghetto, if you will, of saturday morning. before tv, cartoons were for everybody. there's a straitjacket put on animation that you couldn't be as funny as you wanted to be, oh, it's for kids and it can't be this interesting. >> didn't anyone ever tell you it's not polite to grab? >> by the '80s, we were into pound puppies, strawberry shortcake, a lot of merchandising opportunities, but they were sort of ways to sell product rather than ways to entertain or ...

Name a cartoon, they trade in it. name a light night talk show, they trade in it. why? because it's common reference. like we all know the thing they're parodying. >> parody is very much taking something that we recognize, a song that everybody knows, a movie that everybody knows. it's a very grand tradition of taking known forms and skewing them just enough to make a comment about them. >> in your show of shows in the 1950s, they were parody dg things that people knew like the famous kissing scene in "from here to eternity." everybody in america had seen that movie. it was something that ever...

And i will tell you where i was. and i was watching that episode of the flintstones or the jetsons. i always thought that those tv shows could have been better. they were disappointing to me. i said some day if i have my own tv show i'm going to do it different. >> in the '80s there was a young crew of animators and a young crew of writers who didn't have preconceived notions of what animation should or should not do. so there was a lot of breaking out of the three camera sitcom that you could do in animation, to quote monty python, make it up as you go along. >> are there any jive talking rob...

I demand that you shoot me now. >> the duck season, rabbit season exchange to this day, if i watch it, i laugh hysterically because you know it's coming, but watching daffy duck step into it every single time is absolutely brilliant. >> not again. >> the timing in those cartoons is so great. and it was universal comedy. you don't need to know much to understand why bugs bunny and elmer fudd are funny. >> kill the rabbit, kill the rabbit, kill the rabbit. >> kill the rabbit? >> bugs bunny is one of the most influential comedians of all time. i don't think there's anyone from my generation of co...