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Observation, brian. they said they wanted to keep it as an insurance policy, those recordings. let's observe where we are right now. the u.s. president happens to be that same vice president, joe biden, sending literally hundreds of billions of dollars of u.s. taxpayer aid to ukraine, the very country where you have an enterprise whose owner is on national security councils and boards in ukraine. so i think that -- i'm shocked that no one was drawn that obvious analogy as well, that that insurance policy that he's talking about with those audiotapes may be playing out at the expense of the ame...

Ben rightly points outs the hunter biden investigation some to fruition from delaware the clinton investigation and they say what about that they also like inside this indictment and what's in there. >> if you look at what senator graham said on the sunday show. he talked about how hillary clinton and their team destroyed subpoenaed evidence and we have obviously been through that clinton investigation. what about the former bill clinton investigation as well. remember, we found audiotapes in his sock drawer of conversations between former president clinton that were military deliberations, co...

Makes sense to be able to release this type of indictment from special counsel, jack smith. the american public needed to know the extent, and the depth, that the obstruction took place by donald trump. the efforts that were taken by him to ensure that he was going to be able to keep documents and materials, he knew. that's the important factor there. right, ali? he knew he wasn't supposed to keep them. it's in audiotapes. it did messaging. it's in communications with his lawyers. which footnote, is a very big deal. the fact that communications with his own lawyer are actually in there in blac...

Emphasize the reason why it makes sense to be able to release this type of indictment from special counsel, jack smith. the american public needed to know the extent, and the depth, that the obstruction took place by donald trump. the efforts that were taken by him to ensure that he was going to be able to keep documents and materials, he knew. that's the important factor there. right, ali? he knew he wasn't supposed to keep them. it's in audiotapes. it did messaging. it's in communications with his lawyers. which footnote, is a very big deal. the fact that communications with his own lawyer a...

Emphasize the reason why it makes sense to be able to release this type of indictment from special counsel, jack smith. the american public needed to know the extent, and the depth, that the obstruction took place by donald trump. the efforts that were taken by him to ensure that he was going to be able to keep documents and materials, he knew. that's the important factor there. right, ali? he knew he wasn't supposed to keep them. it's in audiotapes. it did messaging. it's in communications with his lawyers. which footnote, is a very big deal. the fact that communications with his own lawyer a...