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Hope it trickles down in reality. birtherrism was about barack obama is not really here, white people, don't vote for him. this thing about harris, her status, that's about black people. that's about a sophisticated attempt to get black people to not want to support senator harris. if you don't like senator harris, her criminal justice background, you have a right to not like someone. but to dislike a candidate because you're falling for a isarest disinformation campaign because we're having discussions about authentic blackness, that's a problem. i don't care whether anyone thought she was bl...

You look out toward afterry ka, but the borders of our northern neighbors. he's already up against t boulders of authentic blackness. then when he admitted as a biracial child that his hair didn't behave with the same rules of curling, what the anthropologists call nappi head. drake admitted that. you're not really black enough, you're not authentically black, black is as black does. what we've seen james baldwin id race is not a reality, it's a political fiction, it's a projection of what we believe. i think in this case, if we use this as an opportunity to see that drake is just as black as ...

Dealers anonymous. >> and if we're grinding. your favorite rappers rapper he was, in terms of the marketplace, in terms of billboard excellence, in terms of using rap as an articulation of one's own personal stance in the world, drake is paralled. you came to my class at georgetown and spoke on jay z many i would invite you back to speak on drake this fall. biracial politics, identity, blackness. we've seen where that has ended up. the keep it real blackness has ended up in devastation. in certain forms of public pathology opinion we need to have a robust and new answer conversation about what...

Somehow not truly american, doesn't really get the american story or something, i think it's a similar sort of kind of bizarre counterbirtherism that occurs when you say you just don't get blackness, just don't understand it. i don't agree with you. i don't come down where you come down on the issues. >> for me, as a christian person, it's important to love everybody. you know, to love everybody, have love in your heart, not be judgmental. the bible says judge not, you be not judged. i happen to be a republican. i work for a republican u.s. senator, and i -- i love people who agree with me i l...

A very strong progressive, tough to get me not to support a democrat. occasional there will say republican i support because i thought that the democrat was so often and that's happened recently, but not at the presidential level. i don't like how we police authentic blackness. you can only be black if you believe in these ideas. is that something you have come up against? >> i can jump in? >> sure. >> the one thing i have to jump in, you know, when you -- blacks have been conservative for a while when you talk about african-americans in the south and you see conservatism becomes a proxy for r...