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turkey. bret: reagan was a little reactive, wasn t he? the story starts right now. martha: thank you very much much. the story begins here. tonight, breaking news from the white house when the president spoke out forcefully right before heading out for thanksgiving. the white house evolution on roy moore continues tonight. the president now saying he wants a republican and that alabama seat and that ryan moore denies the allegations against him. he denies it. if you look at what is really going on and you look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours, he totally denies it. he says it didn t happen and you have to listen to him also. he said 40 years ago, this did not happen.
reporter: are you going to campaign for him? i ll be letting you know next week, but i ll tell you we don t need someone soft on crime mike jones. martha: let s bring in our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel who is live at the white house tonight. hi mike. president trump is counting votes for tax reform and doesn t want the senate to have just 51 republicans, so the white house may feel it needs ryan moore. he denies. by the way, he gives a total denial and i do have to say, 40 years is a long time. he s run eight races and this has never come up, so 40 years is a long time. the women are trump voters, most of them are trump voters. the president made a whole lot of news before leaving the white house with a first family heading for the winter white house for the things giving holiday. the president also weighed in on the recent controversy over prominent democratic lawmakers, emma craddock senator al franken and michigan congressman john
conyers. franken has had women accuse him of sexual misconduct. the president talked about this moment where women are coming forward to reveal men behaving badly. women are very special, i think it s a very special time because a lot of things are coming out and i think that s good for our society and i think it s very, very good for women. [indistinct question] i don t want to speak for al franken. i just heard about conyers 2 minutes ago. there is also outrage over the congressional office of compliance saying at 17 million taxpayer dollars have been used to settled 254 claims over two years per the president says he thinks the congress should open up about lawmakers who settled claims. there seems to be some
a response as i could have ever imagined president trump ever giving. the first thing he said was instead of answering the question about roy moore, he pivoted and talked about issues that are very important to alabama voters. talked about crime in the border and the second amendment and he said that doug jones is unacceptable to him on all of those things and called him a liberal. then he tried to leave it there for a minute and someday pressed him further on roy moore and he didn t defend roy moore, but he also he didn t endorse him and he didn t really defend him except to say that he denies everything. martha: it s a very, very delicate dance. i want to play a little bit of the campaign manager for roy moore who came out today, manager dean young. watch this. mitch mcconnell spent over
$30 million on judge moore. all the fake media for the last two weeks have said everything they can say about judge moore and tried to put people on tv and say judge moore is a bad guy. we understand why. their worldviews cannot be more opposite of judge moore. martha: there seems to be a disconnect between alabama and their decision about who their senator is going to be. and the outrage over the possibility that roy moore could have pushed himself on a 14-year-old girl. i have to tell you, martha, from that first accusation, i believed every word of it. everything she said sent chills down my spine did and believe every bit of it. listening to those campaign officials talking about the effort to destroy a guy, it was the most powerful argument that i have heard today and it brings
you up short and it makes you stop and wonder. we think about all the things that you and i and others have covered over the past few years, the things that turned out to be completely false whether it s the russia dossier, all this crazy stuff. as a fairly sophisticated consumer of the news, it really causes me to question. i don t blame a single alabama voter who goes out there and votes for roy moore for that very reason. by the way, donald trump is right in the white house is right. nobody can do anything to stop roy moore at this time. martha: he could stop him after he gets in. it s very close right now. if he gets and, it could become a whole another episode for the g.o.p. absolutely. at this point, it s up to alabama voters and you have to have faith in them to do the right thing and that includes evaluating all of the information and determining who
is lying, who s not lying and that s the way the system is set up your. i want to play the president on his phone call. let s watch that. we had a great call with president putin. we re talking about syria, we are about north korea, we have a call that lasted almost an hour and a half. we just put out a release on the call. we are talking very strongly about bringing peace to syria. we are talking very strongly about north korea and ukraine. martha: fascinating. the president obviously mired in this whole russia controversy. sort of put set foot forward, spent an hour and he said, i talked to president putin for one hour today and i m going to lay out for everybody what we talked about. what do you make of that? he s complete lee fearless, he doesn t care what the media is saying. he s always confident in his ability to make an argument and win an argument and that s what
he s doing here. the other thing i want to point out as democrats and republicans have similar approaches when it comes to something overseas like having to deal with russia. this guy comes at it with a completely fresh set of eyes and he is willing to turn everything upside down and try it a different way. quite frankly, i think that s why he won the election. martha: charlie hurt, always great to see you. thank you very much. my next guest argues that in washington and hollywood, at the principal is as he writes today a sad matter of timing. here now is jonathan turley. always be to have you on the show. he wrote this many in washington put their ethics on layaway during the clinton presidency and that bill is suddenly due and he also said this public figures often accept blame or cast blame when it no longer threatens personal cost for them to do so. the key is to suspend your
belief and victims until your believing it s beneficial. wow. unfortunately, it s true about washington. washington has one great specialty and that s managing scandal. they are the world experts at it. they find ways of, for example, the ethics committee, to kick this can down the road until the public loses interest or at least their anger subsides. you know there s something wrong when so many politicians in washington are standing on principle, you know they ve run out of any alternatives. what we re seeing now is that a lot of these members really are facing a situation where the bill has come due. members can say they re absolutely aghast that there was a settlement. the public has got to stop being
such chumps. this system was designed to keep these types of settlements and allegations secrets and if members are expressing disbelief and anger now, it s not very convincing. martha: you talk about hypocrisy on the part of some clinton supporters who are now seeing the light which you point out is completely politically advantageous for them at the moment. he said to her for more than 20 years, she took the clinton s endorsements, money, and seats. i particularly love that moment because i call it in the column transactional ethics. martha: is a great term, by the way. you focus on the fact that once were bought, you re supposed to stay bought. that constitutes an ethical
principle. martha: being plain out there by roy moore, the same could be true on the accuser side. what you think of that? i don t agree with the president s statement today. it was void of any moral foundation. i think the allegations against roy moore are very compelling. these women do not appear to be the type to go to for hidden pieces, their republican voters largely, the eric trump voters, but there allegations are quite credible. you can t simply say he denies it because of that was the case, then all of the people who have been trying to hold bill clinton accountable would have to say he gets the benefit of the doubt as well as long as he denies it. that s not the standard. the standard for adults is to look at the allegations and decide if there credible. martha: you think he s being overly pragmatic and he s sacrificing his ethics in order to save the seat. i think he is.
the governor l of alabama says she believes these women. martha: ivanka trump didn t think she would vote for roy moore, but she said she found a reason not to leave these women, his own daughter. they said he would be good for the supreme court. if you believe these women, then this guy was on a watch list for a mall. if these allegations are true, i don t see how you could morally cast that vote. at the end of the day, the alabama voters have to decide. if we pretend that a simple denial means there s are less than credible allegations, i think it s tangible. martha: sadly we live in a world of transactional ethics. i m going to get that put on a t-shirt. jonathan turley, thank you. breaking just moments ago, a second woman is now accusing ranking member of the house judiciary commuter committee js
of sexual harassment. we also learning about the secret hush money that s been used to used to settle harassment cases and gets his money it is, folks? $17 million in your taxpayer dollars. you deserve to know what s going on here. also today, cbs having to confront its charlie rose issue. the longtime news man is accused of mistreating women. speak out let me be very clear, there is no excuse for this alleged behavior. martha: regina lash and leslie marshall torme next. tonight, the latest on this mystery is next. the death of this officer to have died in the line of duty. lower back pain has met its match.
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basis in his office. there are shocking revelations about how congress has secretly been paying off accusers to sweep harassment under the rug on capitol hill. reportedly, there are $17 million worth of these settlements and you know that many comes from, right? its u.s. taxpayer dollars, your money at work. also, pbs news man charlie rose has not been fired one day after he was suspended. pbs and bloomberg quickly also cutting ties. multiple women coming forward to accuse the journalist of an appropriate sexual behavior. gayle king and nora o donnell earlier today. i m still trying to process all of this, i m still trying to sort it out because this is not the man i know, but i m also clearly on the side of the women who have been very hurt and damaged by this. this is a moment that demands a frank and honest assessment about where we stand and more generally, the safety of women.
let me be very clear, there is no excuse for this alleged behavior. martha: we are also hearing from a pbs executive producer who worked with rose for more than 25 years and now says that she wishes that she had done more. she writes i should have stood up for them. i failed. dana lasch and leslie marshall, a progressive radio talk show host. welcome to both of you. i want to put up on the screen, another quote with regard to the john conyers case. this is someone who worked in his office and she said according to the affidavit, one of my duties while working for representative conyers was to keep a list of women that i assumed he was having affairs with and call them at his request and if necessary, have them flown in using congressional resources. dana?
i m stunned that taxpayer resources were used to essentially help conyers predation and expectation of women. this is ridiculous. as i understand, there s going to be an ethics investigation into him, but these are pretty toothless. it exonerates more individuals than it does condemn those who have wrongdoing. hardworking americans should not be paying for the bedroom habits of john conyers. what kind of message does that sound? what s he settling with these women while his wife was serving christmas so to mike martha: you look at these stories and some of these allegations that have been made who will not reveal the names of people, but the problem is, that s fine if you re dealing with a private situation, but when you have bailouts and settlements, i should say in these cases that involve
taxpayer dollars, you really don t have an option whether or not to get that private, do you? i agree with you 100%, this is one thing dana and i have been agreeing on twitter lately more than in the past, especially on this issue. there is no, absolutely no reason that we, the people, with our taxes, should pay for this kind of settlement. when you look at $17 million spread out over 20 years, that s almost $1 million a year. what is this, hush money? this is disgusting. i want to say also, not just flying people in allegedly on our dime, but i have to say, and i ve said this before, these women need to name these names on capitol hill because these people left or right are elected by individuals like you and me who may not know what they are doing with our tax dollars within those chambers. martha: they seem to be woefully behind the times and how they deal with the spirit there saying we should have
mandatory sexual harassment training. corporations across america have been doing this for years and if you do these kinds of payouts, dana, as her saying, here s president trump on this earlier. [inaudible question] i do, i really do. martha: dana? you mentioned the whole issue of you can t use taxpayer dollars to stay out of your business and i apply that for everything that taxpayers have to fund everything. this is our government. john conyers works for the people. he doesn t get to take the people s money and then tell them to shut up instead of his business. this hush money and i think that s what leslie had called it. we don t know what it is because they make this machine of
solving these issues and to sit here and call for sexual harassment courses, this is 2017, we don t have to teach grown adults how to behave in the workplace. if grown adults have to be taught how to behave in the workplace, then maybe those adults shouldn t leave their homes until they can act like decent human beings. martha: it really does come down to a simple rule. keep your hands to yourself, right? talk about the lessons we all into kindergarten. it s not that hard, but it seems like there are a lot of people out there that are having a tough time with that message. i think part of the problem here is that we have, and not just here in the united states and not just in hollywood or on capitol hill, but worldwide, i think pretty much since adam and eve, there has just been this power that men have and have wielded over women in that
unfortunately, women have felt so powerless. i think right now, they are saying we are mad as hell, we re not going to take it anymore, this is the revolution. martha: thank you so much to both of you ladies, happy thanksgiving. who did approve the uranium one deal? there is some new evidence tonight and this story and are going to tell you what that is coming up. then what happened to the border agent who was found dead in the desert? tonight, the fbi is revealing some of his story next. we are investigating this matter as a potential murder of a federal officer. only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort your sleep number setting. and snoring? does your bed do that? right now during ultimate sleep number week, save 50% on the ultimate limited edition bed with
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which we are considering a crime scene. right now, again, we are investigating this as a potential assault on a federal officer. martha: casey stegall live in dallas. good evening. good evening to you. the fbi says both of those u.s. border patrol agents suffered traumatic head injuries and had broken bones, but as you just said, how they sustain those injuries in the first place remains a mystery. investigators will not come out and say it. authorities have only told us that the two agents were discovered in a covert area right off of interstate ten near vanhorn texas along the border. it s an area known for high levels of drug smuggling activities, we are told. the border patrol union have also told us the agents were attacked with rocks and beaten.
however no other law enforcement agencies will confirm that information. as we do know, agent rogelio martinez was so badly injured, he was airlifted to an el paso hospital, but did not survive. tonight, so many unanswered questions make this even more painful for his family. the death of rogelio martinez marks the 125th u.s. border patrol agent to have died in the line of duty. agent martinez is survived by his parents, his brothers, his son, his fiancee, three stepchildren. speak out his fiancee, we understand he was excited to get married soon. another u.s. border patrol agent was also seriously injured. agents say he went to help agent
martinez, he remains in stable condition. the union representing a vast majority of agents working out on the front line says that surviving agent does not remember what happened, has zero recollection of the incident, which could be consistent with a head injury, as you know which we have learned he sustained and as you can imagine, that is only complicating this investigation as they interview him to try and find out what happened and he doesn t remember. martha: what a terrible loss and we hope he heals and that his memory heals as well so he can shed some light on all of this. casey, thank you very much and dallas tonight. here with more on this and the president s call for a wall at the border and how that could play into the dock a question, all of this comes together in one play because there s a potential shutdown. steve cortez sat on
president trump s 2016 hispanic advisory council. he s too a fox contributor and he s a professor professor of economics at the university of chicago. good to have you both here. steve, i want to start with you. you point out something very important in this story and that is the loss of this hispanic officer in what is such a complex issue for americans. i m glad you brought it up because i often bring this point up on air. i think a lot of liberal politicians think that they are pandering to the hispanic community with their misbegotten policies things like open borders and sanctuary cities. when i point out all the time is the victims of those terrible policies, the prey are hispanics themselves. agent martinez is a hero, he died trying to protect our country, whatever the circumstances and it certainly appears it was violence from perpetrators.
he is an american hispanic who died because we have allowed a dangerous situation on our southern border. there are many examples where hispanic americans died because of the pandering of liberal politicians. i don t call them century cities anymore, i called them steinle cities. martha: he s saying that people who think the way you do in some regards are doing a disservice to the hispanic community. conflating this with dhaka is kind of absurd. i never mentioned daca. martha: i did. you have a budget bill that was coming in. you could have checked on the government which looks like it may happen because the president wants funding for the wall and democrats may want to insert daca into that in order to get the government from shutting
down. these issues conversed with a spending bill that will be under a lot of pressure. it may be, but i kind of think you are mixing things that shouldn t be mixed. the first is republicans control both houses of congress and the white house. there has never been a shutdown in the history of the united states in which the government s all three branches were controlled by the same party. all republicans have to do is do their job and they can pass the budget. they don t need any democrats. martha: here s the thing, there are a lot of republicans and independents who believe that the daca bill should be extended. it could be problematic. the point is the root of this problem is that by large majorities, the american people support extending citizenship or protection to kids that came here as toddlers and babies who are americans.
they love this country, their work in, they are important contributors to our economy and the president of the united states made a deal with the democrats that said he was going to extend, he was going to pass daca and extend protections for them and he has turned his back on that. martha: let s get a response from steve. steve, is this a problem for republicans? look, it s a problem for america. i m pro daca and i disagree with some of my colleagues within team trump on that. i believe these are different categories. what did he do? he very compassionately said let s do it the right way. i m not a king like president obama, let s do it the right way and get it through congress. now the onus is on the congress and i agree it s on republicans to get it done the right way and the right way is to compromise.
let s extend daca in exchange for more resources for the border. that makes sense for everyone. martha: i have to leave it there, thank you so much. good to see you both tonight. lois lerner, remember her? she says her testimony that she gave behind closed doors in the tea party case can never see the light of day for the mark in public. she says if it does, she will be in danger. what did she say and there that has are so worried? a woman who knows what it s like to combine fear and the irs nex next. hillary clinton insists there is no scandal surrounding the controversial deal with russia, so what was at work and that uranium one deal? new information from the man who was undercover the entire time.
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your client also engaged in conversations about efforts of the washington to gain influence with the clintons in the obama administration. she was telling the u.s. government all of this in 2009 and 2010. my client was being told by the fbi and people at the white house that president obama was being briefed on this matter, so how could cell have gone through? martha: that was the lawyer for the confidential fbi informant in the russia uranium one case raises new questions about the deal approved by the obama administration. the hill also reporting tonight on new documents that allegedly reveal russia viewed the purchase of uranium one as part of an overall strategy to try to control the world s uranium market. here now,
welcome gentlemen. let me start with you. i know you think this is all nothing. why? for a couple reasons. first off, what we re talking about here is an insignificant amount of uranium. what have we learned since a so-called scandal broke? this constitutes one 30th of the overall uranium in the whole deal. since this deal has been struck, only 150 tons of uranium have been extracted from the united states. compare that to the deal united states made with russia and the 1990s when russia got 150,000 tons of uranium. in other words, it would take 1,000 euros to extract the amount of uranium out of this deal. martha: apparently the russians thought it was important enough that they went
to great lengths to get this deal. mark stern everything he just said it is completely irrelevant because the reality is this is not a national security scandal. we already know that after the russians announced their intention to acquire uranium one, bill clinton was miraculously invited to moscow to give a speech to a russian investment bank that was pushing uranium once stock. the clinton foundation had $145 billion from interests related to uranium one. they had a confidential informant who told him there was criminal activity happening at rosatom, the company that was going to buy uranium one, but they approved it anyway. it was part of a larger strategy. you have to get your facts right.
what happened is a lot of russian money and that clinton foundation in the clinton world, we will need to get to the bottom of it. martha: zach, this is what i don t understand about your overall feeling. were so concerned about influence in russia and you are clearly and we all should be as journalists, why would you not want to follow that trail back to see where some of this began and see how some of that influence was bought in that situation? you have this informant and he says he s telling the fbi, the entity it goes on to say, they used racially tinged insults to boast about how easy they found it to win the radium business. a couple things.
$140 million, and happened before secretary clinton was secretary of state. martha: she was running for president. sure, but $140 million is irrelevant. the second piece martha: why would they give $140 million? i have no idea. martha: just for the heck of it because it was good work. the second piece as it has nothing to do with uranium one. martha: i want to go to a question i get asked a lot which is why did the clinton foundation have part of their base in canada? why would a former united states president want to have part of his charity based in canada? i have absolutely no idea. it will look into that too.
maybe there s a little bit of money going through there. the reality is zach is very interested and invested getting donald trump, not in investigating russian influence. if you care about that, you have to investigate both republicans and the democrats because the reality is, there was russian money flying around in both republicans and the democrats side. it was not just paul manafort. it was the podesta brothers, bill clinton himself and if we want to understand as americans, as we showed, how the russians were playing this game, they were playing both sides. martha: i have to go. i m leaving it to mark. it will pick it up again. thank you very much, good to see you both tonight. still ahead this evening, lois lerner of the irs wants her testimony to stay under wraps. she said if it s revealed to the public, it will put her in danger. tonight, becky garrison is one
of the women who was targeted by lerner. she has some thoughts on that coming up.
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white house military personnel have been removed from their post. they ve been reassigned after an appropriate contact with foreign women on president trump s trip to vietnam. according to the washington post, all three service members were part of the communications agency and they handled the secure communications for the president when he was traveling. this is the same team that these similar allegations during vice president pence s trip. we ll get you more information on that. i ve been advised by my counsel to certain constitutional right not to testify or answer questions related to the subject matter of this hearing. martha: oh former irs director lois lerner back to 2013 about the agency s illegal targeting of certain groups. now she s pushing to make sure that testimony that she gave behind closed doors, not we just saw, is never revealed parishioners on the trans-trips of what she said or the audio, i believe there is as well, in that room to become public.
she says she does have a right to keep it and she s pushing for that. she is a public official of course and she was paid by the u.s. taxpayers to do her job, so the other argument is obvious. now becky garrison, a woman directly affected by lerner s leadership at the time has something to say about that. before we hear from her, a reminder of the testimony from miss lerner and miss garrison. you re telling my government that you forgotten your place. i have not done anything wrong. the america that people cross oceans to become a part of and i m terrified it s slipping away. i have not broken any laws, i have not violated any irs rules and regulations. martha: becky garrison is the founder of the tea party of alabama. one of the many groups targeted by the irs spirit will come to you.
she says she s getting death threats she will get death threats if these trans-trips are released. who would want to do that to he her? that s a good question. i wonder if some of those death threats are coming from the left. it was more than just the irs that was involved in this scandal. it was also the department of justice, the federal election commission. there are a lot of governors i don t want the truth to come out, but that s she said i have not done anything wrong. i have not broken any laws. if that s the case, what is so damaging that she feels for her life? martha: that s a great question. she claims that she is the one the irs short of understand what was going on.
she didn t have the right direction in her apartment, that s why she had all of these requests and she was the one that was trying to shed light on it. that is so not true. months ago, we settled with the irs and they did admit they were targeting conservative groups and in one of the other cases that also came out in october this year, a multimillion dollar settlement by the irs to groups that were targeted. that is taxpayer money being paid out. i believe that we, as taxpayers, have a right to hear that testimony to see why if there was nothing wrong, why did we pay out millions of dollars for the irs s wrongdoing? this should be public. martha: she s a public official. she testified, it should be a part of public record. as you say, she was giving her reasoning, there shouldn t be anything that she needs to worry about.
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beyond those who have been so outspoken to push back on that. will we see other senators come out today and take a flake or corker-like position on that? we ll find out. but right now i doubt it. a standing ovation. i want to bring my panel in. robert costa, national political reporter for the washington post and bret stephens, an op-ed columnist for the new york times and megan murphy, the editor of bloomberg business week. brett, i want to start with you. one trump critic said the ice is beginning to crack. what we re seeing with bob corker, with jeff flake, you re going to see more republicans follow suit. do you think that s the case? follow suit in denouncing the president? yes. or in renouncing their political ambitions. fair point. this is the key thing. there s a law in economics, gresham s law, bad money drives out good. in a sense what we have is bad republican politicians driving out good ones who are just removing themselves literally
from circulation. there was this conceit among republicans last year if trump were elected, congressional republicans would control him. the opposite is happening. the president has the whip hand and is defining the party in his image. any republican with a conscience or who feels he s accountable also to his grandchildren wants no part of it. so you re going to end up more swiftly than people realize the bannonization of the republican party. and is that a good or a bad thing for steve bannon? bob, steve bannon loves this. this is his excuse to get more of his extreme guys in. but the more extreme candidates that steve bannon puts forward, the better chance democrats have of winning because people in the middle can simply say i can t vote for those loons. they are not what conservative principles represent. we ll have to see about that because in a state like alabama, where roy moore won the primary against senator luther strange, it looks like that race is
tightening but it s by no means a guaranteed win for the democrats in spite of the candidate s hard-line views on the republican side. but in arizona with senator flake departing, representative sinema has a real shot at being competitive in an increasingly purple state. she has a lot of money in the bank and democrats hope to have what happened in arizona in a few other states. then maybe this is exactly what all president trump loves, he loves to win today. steve bannon s plan all along has been to blow up the system. that works for both of them. but long term for republicans, how is this a win? long term for the party it s potentially devastating and crippling for generations to come. i want to push back on the description of roy moore as a hard line. he is not a fire brand conservative. he holds views which are an
enathma. it would be more understandable if the president had gotten further in his legislative agenda, if they had been successful dismantling obamacare, if the wall had been built, if some of these anti-immigration policies had come in. this is an incredibly unsuccessful administration so far in terms of key legislative priorities with a president whose approval ratings have dipped below 40%, down to the lower levels of what his perceived base is. this is the man that still given the type of statements that he makes, given what we ve seen with charlottesville, with gold star families, that still so many republicans with a political who are contemplating their political future still resist standing up and speaking out. we still only of jeff flake, bob corker, people who have given up their political future so far. you know, bad money driving out good politicians. it will be much more interesting to see who is willing to come above who has an election at stake and future at stake and is
willing to replicate some of these comments. it is potentially devastating to the future of the party. think about the people we know who are inside the white house. how much longer where are they, stephanie? think about what we re doing behind the scenes. i don t know, but out front you ain t doing much. i want to share more of what jeff flake said and think about how his words should impact others who are members of the republican party and the administration. let s take a listen. i am aware that there is a segment of my party that believes that anything short of complete and unquestioning loyalty to a president who belongs to my party is unacceptable and suspect. and right there, listen, you hear sarah huckabee sanders call bob corker s say bob corker and jeff flake, they re grandstanding. their tweets are reckless. when president trump is the reckless tweeter in chief. kellyanne conway has clearly said it s always the president first. as i said before, the full mnuchin.
steve mnuchin has put his entire success and reputation on the line when he gets on his knees and praises to the president in front of the whole entire world. yeah, he who tells the most outrageous lie wins i think is the operative political theory of the white house. and the truth is, it s not i m not talking about the morality of it. it s not bad politics. what s happening here, i think what we re fail to appreciate is what s happening here isn t it s basically a culture war within the republican party. someone like judge moore stands on one side of that culture war. guys like jeff flake got into politics because they believe in lower taxes, small government, all of the kind of nice, neat, conservative ideas that attracted me to the republican party, you know, in the 1980s. but that s actually not what s happening here. and it s important to understand sort of steve bannon s ideological pedigree. this is a guy deeply steeped in marxist and fascist ideology and
philosophy from the 1920s and 1930s. he s operating on a playbook which is, first of all, take over the institutions. how does that square off with good old family values? what are steve bannon s family values. ding ding ding ding ding. what are trump s family values? bob, you tweeted that many republicans no longer want to listen to them. is it that republicans don t want to listen to them or is it that republicans are frustrated that not much is getting done in washington? i think the frustrationins a the grievance within the republican base are more than just frustration about tax reform being stalled or the health care legislation being put on the shelf. it is about that culture war within the republican party. they see in the party s establishment a group of people who came out of the ronald reagan mold but did not perform, did not became part of the washington scene, and so since the tea party movement began
almost a decade ago, there s been this unraveling on the american right that has exploded now into this trump moment, this bannon moment, and no one really knows how to control it, especially leader mcconnell. bob, it s not like president trump or steve bannon walked in and said i have the better repeal and replace plan. it s not like there are republicans simply being obstructionists. no one came up with a comprehensive plan that suited all the things that president trump agreed to on the campaign trail and at the same time were in line with the republican principles. that would be the normal way of competing for a party s power. i m sorry, i asked for normalcy. stephanie, just think about this. support their whole aim isn t scoring a legislative win but just disruption. which is steve bannon s role. from the beginning he just said i want to blow the system up. jared kushner has told people i know, look, it s working, we re blowing it up, and leaving nothing on the other side. if they had legislative wins,
much of trump s base would be hurt the most. a lot of people felt that way. health care experts thought the health care proposal was about cutting the medicaid expansion, so that s a valid point you ve made. okay. before we go, bret, when steve bannon gets on the podium and goes after the globalists and the liberal elites, and again i remind you when he goes after those corporate globalists, steve bannon fully funded by the mercers, co-founded by the hedge funding, do we ever take a step back and say many of those who are saying these are bad ideas would benefit. you want this tax plan? great. lots of new yorkers will do really well, lots of people in california. but it s trump s base who actually get hurt. do they not realize if these things went forward, they would be the ones to suffer? look, i disagree with your premise. go for it. i think corporate tax reform and general tax reform, simplifying the brackets, lowering the rates, would be
broadly speaking good for the economy. no, no, i agree with you. it would be good for the real economy. i m not just talking about the stock market, speculation economy. then why not just be straightforward and honest about it from the get-go. why does the president and steve mnuchin early on say this isn t going to benefit the rich of the just say what it is. well, there should always be truth in advertising in terms of your politics. but again, they re not talking about really economic politics. they re talking about fueling a politics of anger and an anger directed, not so much at the wealthy so much as the cultural elites of the coasts, whom they feel benefit the most from this. so sort of seeing this in a policy perspective i think is the wrong lens. just in terms of what bob was saying, he s exactly right. if the goal is disruption, they are certainly achieving it. but at what cost? at what scorched earth? at what promises taken away from a generation?
at such a landscape where there is no civility, no discourse, insults. we talked about this before, that is where they comfortable, really taking people down to a personal level. you will wake up at the ending and look at what you have created and you will have sewn the seeds of a new disruptiveness the likes we have never seen. that s what i m concerned about. that s what i m concerned about as a parent. this is not the politics of courage. and more conscious capitalism and acts of inclusion and extraordinary technology and we have this war raging inside this country. we ve got to take a break. still ahead, we ve got more on jeff flake s decision to not seek re-election when we talk with a fellow republican who made a similar announcement a month ago. congressman charlie dent of the state of pennsylvania. next, president trump tweeting that he s got great support from many sides. you remember what many sides is for the president. but as republicans try to come
together behind a reform bill, minority leader chuck schumer says the only way democrats will get a voice is if the bill fails. i think many is trump s favorite word. he loves that word, many. i write them a poem instead. and one for each of you too. thats actually yours. that one. yeah. regardless, we re stuck with the bill. to many, words are the most valuable currency. last i checked, stores don t take words. some do. not everyone can be that poetic voice of a generation. i know right? such a burden. the bank of america mobile banking app. the fast, secure and simple way to send money. (avo) but you also have a higher risk of heart attack or stroke. non-insulin victoza® lowers a1c, and now reduces cardiovascular risk. victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill. (avo) and for people with type 2 diabetes treating cardiovascular disease, victoza® is now approved
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expect. we believe that we will get faster economic growth that will exceed this 1.5. so we don t anticipate a big deficit effect from this tax reform. models with very aggressive assumptions. that of course was speaker paul ryan telling us what to expect from republicans upcoming tax bill. in today s money, power, politics, nbc news has learned house republicans aim to unveil their plan as soon as november 1st. ben white spoke with senate majority leader chuck schumer for his latest episode of his podcast, politico money. trump tweeted this this morning, working hard on the biggest tax cut in u.s. history. great support from many sides. big winners will be the middle class, business and jobs. but here s what chuck schumer told you on democrats and the path forward. take a listen. there is a path forward, but only after this tax bill fails. the hard right, which cares so much about just reducing taxes, it s becoming clearer and clearer they don t care about the deficit, they don t care
even about middle class people, they care about tax breaks for the wealthy and the powerful, has a stranglehold on the republican party right now. and i don t think they ll give it up unless this bill fails. is that really the only path, if the bill fails? people want bipartisanship. they do, but i don t think democrats have any illusions that they re going to take part on a tax reform bill if the house reduces a bill which is get rid of the amt, lower the tax rate, there s a lot of stuff that accrues to wealthy people. they ll wait and see if trump can slam that through with all republican votes. they assume corker or flake or any of these other people at war with trump could torpedo it like they did with health care and then they could be having a seat at the table to fundamentally change this tax reform bill. you and i both know there are parts of this country that are
suffering. they have jobs but not high-paying jobs and haven t seen their wages go up. while corporate taxes are high, the statutory rate is high, corporate america is kicking it. the stock market is enfuego. what about the argument, corporates, they re doing pretty damn well, they don t need a tax cut. corporate profits are high, the stock market is high, but you can make the argument and schumer was open to this that the statutory corporate rate is too high. it distorts the way companies do business. they go overseas and do a bunch of weird things that they wouldn t do if you got it down to 25%, got rid of loopholes, then i think you could be talking about perhaps higher paying jobs, more jobs without increasing deficit and the debt. democrats are saying give us a revenue neutral tax reform not tilted to the top and we ll deal on lowering the corporate rate because that would be a good idea to do. what s to say that couldn t happen before this bill goes through. the bill isn t written in blood. can t they sit down and say what
are we going to bring to the table? when you looked at the 401(k) offering over the weekend, it doesn t have to be, well, right now you can contribute $18,000 and now it s going to go to $2,400. maybe it s somewhere in the middle. let s just say i don t know what a great idea it is to be targeting people s 401(k) contributions. yes. but i m just saying a middle ground. maybe they should come to the table sooner and this is a dicey area for them. the same thing in the house where you ve seen publicly they say bring us to the table, we want to deal, but they don t want to be seen as collaborating with trump, dealing with trump, because the democratic base despises trump and they don t want to see democrats help him get an achievement. but ideology doesn t put food on your table or get you a job. do people care about ideology or do they care about thriving. there are two separate threads. the political thread democrats are dealing with in terms of working with trump and the reality of getting something good done for the middle class and the economy. i think they think they can do the second one and the first
one. get the politics right, don t deal with trump on his tax cuts for the rich. let him fail and then go to the table and say we agree. we need tax relief for the middle class and to fix the corporate tax system, and here s how we do it. that s their strategy going forward and we ll see if it works out for them. i think everybody needs to get off their high horse and learn to play ball. i agree but that s not necessarily the politics that we have. i know it s frustrating. big, deep breaths for all of us. ben white, listen to this guy s podcast, it s so good. next, we re going to turn back to our top story. republicans turning on trump. jeff flake part of a growing list of republicans not seeking re-election. another name on that list, charlie dent of pennsylvania joins me next as more of his colleagues follow suit.
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allegedly throwing a rock from a michigan overpass. i hate this story. killing a man. the teens, ages 15 to 17 have pled not guilty. he was a father of four. and a former production assistant has come forward with another accusation against movie mogul harvey weinstein. she says weinstein forced himself over her over a decade ago. this brings the number of accusations to more, ready for this, than 60. weinstein s spokesperson says any allegations of nonconsensual sex are unequivocally denied. i m going to say it again, 60. president george h.w. bush apologizing after an actress alleges on a now deleted social media post that he sexually assaulted her. heather lynn said bush told a dirty joke and grabbed her four years ago. bush s spokesperson says bush would never under any circumstance intentionally cause anyone distress and most sincerely if his attempt to humor offended her.
emmy award-winning actor and sitcom star robert guillaume has died. his widow says he had been fighting prostate cancer. the jeffersons star was 89 years old. and with jeff flake announcing his retirement from the senate, more than a dozen republican lawmakers have now said they will not seek re-election, but whether or not that is a good thing for the party depends on who you ask. our open chris jansing sat down with a group of republican voters to see what they think. conservative values include a free market of ideas and competition, and we believe that that s good. some of those challenges are valuable and all of your elected officials should have to answer for those kind of things if we re going to wage war within the party and have this exercise within the party. it should be an effort to move closer to our values. i want to bring in outgoing pennsylvania republican congressman charlie dent. congressman, what was your reaction to jeff flake s announcement yesterday? well, i wasn t surprised by
his announcement. jeff is one of my best friends in congress. he is my tennis partner, paddle ball partner. because of that speech i m going to have to let him win a few games now. seriously, he s a dear friend. by the way, he is very philosophically and ideologically conservative. he is very thoughtful, careful, measured in tone. he is a very good natured person. he is a happy warrior. for those of us who have been around more than five minutes here, he was always a thorn in the side of leadership in the house as well as to the appropriations committee on which i served, so jeff, you know, is a guy who would stand up on the floor on principle and he would challenge every earmark in a bill and he would get beaten like a rented mule. but he was happy. people respected him. i have a lot of admiration for jeff flake. i thought he i thought he acquitted himself well yesterday. he s a true conservative, as are you. just a moment ago, we shared some thoughts from republicans who talked about what they think the republican party represents. it s the same republican party
my mom and dad have voted with for the last 50 years. that is not the party of roy moore or steve bannon, who do not represent conservative principles. given that that is the case, why do so many republicans remain silent in criticizing the president or the way things are moving? i can t understand it, stephanie. we ve had too many of these emperor has no clothes moments. i ve said to my colleagues, it s important to state when you agree with the president, say publicly when you support him but you shouldn t be afraid to check him if he moves in a bad direction or call him out if he does something inappropriate or offensive. i think people are afraid of their bases in too many cases. as an example, we all have constituents and i have some, it s a small minority but some will say i m not sufficiently pure or sufficiently committed to the cause. i often respond to those folks and say, you know, if i set myself on fire for you, you would complain about the temperature of the flame. i mean that s what we re dealing
with. i think people want us to be honest, they want us to call these things as we see them, and again i think that s a shortcoming of many. so i m glad that jeff flake and bob corker and others are giving voice to some of these concerns that so many of us talk about privately. while there s some republicans that do want that purity that you speak about, others want pragmatism and we know there haven t been legislative wins. is that why so many republicans are backed into a corner here? because while they want to speak out against what s happening to the fracturing in the party, they feel like they don t have a leg to stand on because the president turns and says, well, i d love to sign some bills but you can t get anything done. i will never criticize the president of the united states for being pragmatic, he is that. he s very pragmatic and i m glad that he is. but at the same time we have a lot of members in congress, frankly on both sides of the aisle, who are very good at telling you what they can never do. they re locked into a no position. they simply can t get to yes. that has been a frustration for me for over a long period of
time. we see it all the time on appropriations bills or on budget agreements. we know we have to enter into a bipartisan agreement, we need 60 votes in the senate, and some people just can t accept that kind of accommodation or compromise. they consider this a dirty word. but our system was designed for people to work together and ultimately find consensus and compromise. if people can t accept that, why would you be in congress. compromise is not a dirty word, it s progress. thank you for joining us this morning. i appreciate it. if you let jeff flake win a few games of tennis, no big deal. yeah, it is. thanks, stephanie. up next, we ll stay focused on upcoming elections. what twitter is doing to help you figure out who paid for the political ads that showed up in your feed. i want to know why they continue to protect those hateful trolls. i don t want to sound paranoid, but d ya think our recent online sales success seems a little. strange? na. ever since we switched to fedex ground
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that s a great term. it s like facebook using the word community. how legit is this? you know, whatever. they can say whatever they want. it s like the decency pledge not to sexually harass in silicon it s fine, they can say a lot of words and talk loudly. i think the issue is they have got to have tools in place where people can use these systems a lot better and see what s going on on them. they re headed for regulation, all of them. i think that s the fear and so they want to make these announcements that they re very they very much want to show things, they very much want to be transparent, they re there for the user. so you re going to see a million of these i think they re public relations announcements. here s an example twitter says a flagged political ad will look like and what responsibility they have. but at the end of the day, is any of this going to make a difference? this is an unregulated industry. the government didn t move quickly enough. right. it s due time they get regulated. not in every area, but in these areas. everyone else is regulated for
political ads and therefore why is this medium separate. it s a communications medium, it s a broadcast medium, it s a news distribution medium. and i think nobody likes being regulated, i think, in that regard but in this case political ads can be very damaging and very they can make they re confusing to people who are looking at them and they don t know what they are. and so twitter is confusing enough. not giving enough signals that you re looking at an ad versus content, what content is, who s giving the content is really important. will twitter ever get off protecting anonymity? if you think about the trolls that go after you every day. every day. or go after me every day, they never show their name. they never show their face. what argument remains on twitter s behalf why these people s identities should be protected? if we don t grow, we die. that s their argument. it s a business argument. they don t make it explicitly but everything around twitter and facebook is growth, growth,
growth. that s every public company. but growth is critically important, especially to twitter which has been struggling. they have shown negative growth but if they don t show this is a growing concern, they re already in a lot of trouble in other ways. so i think anything that cuts into growth is something that they think about a lot. but that s an argument to be made to their shareholders. right. when they sit down on the hill and a senator says to them why is it that you need to protect the identity of those who are spewing hate, what could their defense possibly be? free speech. they love to do that. again as i said a million times, they consider themselves a benign platform when they become something else and all of these companies pretend they re not media companies. they re not media companies in the sense of an nbc or news corp or something else but they re the new media companies. i think they want all the benefits of being a media company and none of the responsibilities. so responsibility is what i always use, which they don t like that word. then you know these companies better than everyone.
before everything went sideways during the election, two years ago would these nonmedia companies have decided to become content creators? well, yes, they are content creators. they distribute content. facebook, 70% of news, some enormous number of people get their news through facebook. they have a responsibility to understand and anticipate. one of the parts is anticipating. facebook has a history of doing things and then pulling them back. there was beacon, facebook live with the bullying. why didn t they think of that? why didn t they have tools in place? why didn t they react sooner? they re always sort of not facebook, i don t want to necessarily pick on them, but they have enormous platforms. they re like cities and are responsible for what happens in these cities. if there s a crime, they need to have police in place. if there s you know, if there s a bunch of trash, they need to clean it up. and i think that s the issue. i think it goes to their businesses. if they create these and i call twitter this and i love twitter. but it s become a cesspool in a
lot of ways. we did an interview with samantha bee about a live podcast and she can t take mentions anymore because she said they have gotten so vial. she enjoyed mentions and liked using the product. so if you just want to make a business argument, why do you want a product where the city is a disaster zone. like why is it unpleasant to get around it. so for the vast majority of users, they behave well, you know, they want to have a communication system, whatever one they want, but they have to also have to contend with all this crap. but cities only thrive if there s law and order. yes. so twitter and facebook can t possibly make an argument that we can exist in pure anarchy because they can. their argument is we are platforms, we re just serving things and it s just not doesn t hold water anymore. it just doesn t. they can use the word community all they want, that just ain t true. all right, kara swisher, thank you so, so much.
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welcome back. i m stephanie ruhle. i am sorry, but i need to make a correction involving the death of entertainment superstar robert guillaume. he was in shows such as the jeffersons and in the sitcom soap before getting his own spin-off benson where he was a well-known star across america. he was also a broadway actor and appeared in several movies. he had been fighting prostate cancer and he was 89 years old. moving forward, remember that notorious dossier that contained some salacious accusations against president trump? well, it turns out that dossier was funded in part by the clinton campaign and the dnc. a source confirms to nbc news that a law firm representing both retained fusion gps to conduct the research which began in april of 2016 and ended just
before the election. the washington post the first to cover the story reports that before that research was retained by clinton s campaign, it was being funded by an unknown republican client during the republican primary. clinton has not responded to the story, but trump himself responded quoting fox news writing, quote, clinton campaign and dnc paid for research that led to the anti-trump fake news dossier. the victim here is the president. i need to bring back my panel. bret stephens and megan murphy. what s your reaction? megan, you first. this is not a surprise that the clinton campaign or the dnc funded this research after, we should point out, it was being funded during the primary by a republican challenger. we don t know who that was. this is how opposition research works. the thing that is more troubling is that the campaign and the lawyer involved in this was lied about this to several reporters who asked about this. now, that is problematic. it is it is a little bit
baffling was to why you would not disclose this. as i said, this is how opposition research works. it wouldn t be a surprise to anyone that the dnc and the clinton campaign were funding this. it contained allegations about their opponent in this. so it is just it s kind of am talking point now, frankly, that has been made worse by sort of the mystery and the secrecy around that. i don t think anyone close to the clinton campaign is that surprised about creating this problem out of something that didn t have to be a problem. but it doesn t change the fact of the matter that what is important here and what we should be focusing on is, not even the particular dossier, but what were the campaign s connections to russia? we don t have disclosure and it seems to be tight-lipped around paul manaforte and the rest of the campaign. the journalists are interested in how far the connections go between the russians and the president s campaign. we have known for 25 years since bill clinton told us he didn t inhale that every
statement out of the mouth of the clintons is a calculation and truth is always optional. that s the way the clintons have operated for a long time. which is also the defense when we call president trump a liar or say that to trump s base, he says, hillary clinton has been lying for decades. they are right. by the same token, donald trump lies about everything that comes out of his mouth. but again, megan puts her finger on it, the issue isn t who paid for opposition research. the question is, is it true? and simply the fact that you lied about paying for it doesn t describe it, the potential validity of documents that are unsubstantiated. okay, to megan s point where you said, this is a trump talking point, is it? could trump have already put his foot in his mouth calling this the fake dossier? when we don t know that it is fake, it is just unconfirmed. he definitely has vested interest in saying the dossier is fake knowing what we know about the allegations in it. russia as we all know, anyone
who has covered this for a long time, know there is nothing that makes him angrier and pushes his button to 140 characters quicker than allegations about russia surrounding his campaign. that s the thing that frustrates him and potentially as we discuss on the show many times, people talk about this and i offer refer to it with watergate with no break-in. it is the anger and attitude to this so unfair and unjust that they are accused about this. as we see, the probe bob mueller is leading is very serious and continues to get people to talk to them. and we do not know exactly where it is going nest, but don t underestimate the firepower of the prosecution staff. i should say, the head of fusion gps is glenn simpson, former wall street journal reporter with an excellent reputation. i myself have seen fusion gps documents in unrelated reporting. it s a serious organization. and people aught to i think the reason that the trumps go to
140 degrees or decibals or characters is because they fear that at least parts of this dossier con train truth. christopher steel was a well-regarded british spy, the idea that it is all fake is classic trump dissembling. then the dnc revelation, does it do anything to represent bob mueller s case? look, who paid for this is ultimately irrelevance. what it tells us is something we have known about the clintons for a long time, which given the truth to tell you whether this is milk or water, they will say milk. it is water. are they never going to learn their lesson? at the end of the day, things are over, they have had months to say, yep, i paid for it, why continue to not do so? i don t know the answer to that question. we should be clear when the existence of the dossier was first publicly reported, it was reported at that time that it was sources said it was funded by the clinton campaign. so it is definitely muzzling to me that they have not just come out at a time that it was more
neutral, less heated, than it is now to say, yes, we paid for this opposition research. i don t think we as journalists are doing a very good job of explaining to the american public how opposition research is used. how it s paid for. it is constantly traded on any campaign from multiple sources. nasty. and let s also point out that this was reported by the fake news washington post. right? and the very media they claim is a conspiracy against them has just handed them a gift in the coin of this revelation about the clintons. well, president trump, i don t need to see the dossier, it is fake news. i would love to see your taxes. those aren t fake. let s see them. ahead in the next hour, the new investigation, former trump campaign chairman paul manafort is facing. and the arizona republican kelli ward running for flake s senate seat. democrats are stoked about that. it s time for the your business of the week. danny cohn of seattle,
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nixon, if you want to learn about watergate, learn about what the country was like and what was going on in the country. and the way to start understanding that is to understand 68. oh, and there s a little bit of collusion in the victory in the end that is worth it s actually richard nixon used collusion with the foreign government, the south vietnamese in order to win in the end. and for the rest of the story, playing with fire is now available in bookstores and online. if you can bear the sound of my voice for hours on end, the audiobook is available too. that s tonight s last word. the 11th hour with broian will jams is next. $15 million for flynn to have a turkish president s rival sent back to turkey. also two republican senators tonight withdrawing their support for roy moore as the alabama candidate calls the sexual misconduct claims against him completely false.
we re live in vietnam as president trump is half a world away from the problems back home in washington. the 11th hour on a friday night begins now. and good evening, once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 295 of the trump administration, and tonight it is now clear that the attention of robert mueller is for the time being, at least, bearing down on mike flynn, the retired u.s. army general who was one of the stall warts of the trump campaign effort and who served as national security adviser for 24 days in the west wing. nbc news reports today mueller is investigating a possible deal between senior turkish officials and flynn during the presidential transition. this report says, in part, quote, four people familiar with the investigation say mueller is looking into whether flynn discussed orchestrating the return to turkey of a chief rival of turkish president erdogan who lives in the u.s.
flynn was offered upwards of $15 million to be paid directly or indirectly if he could complete the deal according to two sources familiar with the meeting. flynn s lawyers released a statement about the story saying, quote, we have intentionally avoided responding to every rumor or allegation raised in the media. today s news cycle as brought allegations about general flynn ranging from kidnapping to bribery that are so outrageous and prejudicial we are making an exception to our usual rule. they are false. flynn, you ll recall, among trump s earliest campaign supporters, he served on the transition team before following the new president to the white house. sormer acting attorney general sally yates over at justice had testified six days after trump took the oath of office she warned the white house flynn was compromised with the russians. she also testified that vice president mike pence had unknowingly made false statements about flynn s conversations with the russians. and administration official has
said pence was relaying what flynn told him. 18 days after yates warning, trump fired flynn. here s how he explained why he did it. did you fire mike flynn? mike flynn s a fine person. and i asked for his resignation. he respectfully gave it. he is a man who there was a certain amount of information given to vice president pence who s with us today. and i was not happy with the way that information was given. did you direct mike flynn to discuss sanctions with the russian ambassador? no, i didn t. prior to your inauguration? no, i didn t. would you have fired him if the information hadn t leaked out. no, i fired him because of what he said to mike pence, very simple. mike was doing his job. we ultimately fired, but we fired for a different reason. you re talking about general flynn? general flynn, yes.
because of lying to the vice president? yeah. but everything plays in, everything plays into it. but we fired him because he said something to the vice president that was not so. let s bring in our starting panel on a friday night, shall we. nbc news national political reporter julia ainsley, more on that in a moment. political white house reporter matthew nussbaum is back with us, and jennifer rodgers, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. good evening and welcome to you all. julia you get to go first because, of the panelists, you made the news today. tell us this story as best you can for a lay audience, including how in the name of god it also includes the poconos and pennsylvania? that is a good question. i will break that down for you as simply as i can. basically we know that robert mueller is looking into whether or not michael flynn and his associates met in a december
2016 meeting at the 21 club in new york. that is an upscale restaurant just blocks away from the trump tower where flynn was serving on the presidential transition team. we understand from sources who are familiar with this meeting that they allegedly talked about a $15 million bribe that they would try to give flynn once he was national security adviser if he could see that fi tul la len. in order to remove him, that could have been through a kidnapping operation, or through extradition. we also know that the fbi had re-upped their investigation, they were asked to re-up their investigation into gulen at the beginning of the trump administration when flynn served as national security adviser. this was after they had already dismissed the investigation under obama. we re looking at a number of pieces. what mueller is trying to drill
extradition request to come from the white house. it s supposed to come through diplomatic channels in the justice department. so counselor, this comes down to you. someone said on social media today that if there could be anything funny taken out of this, this could be the plot from a cohen brothers movie with general flynn driving around the poconos looking for this old guy to send out of the country. as a former prosecutor, what alarm bells go off in your head? well, it s not good for flynn, no matter how you slice it. if he s talking about taking money to try to orchestrate a return of gulen to turkey through official channels, then you re talking about serious bribery offenses, you re not allowed to take money to do things for your government job, except your salary. if you re talking about him trying to orchestrate some illegal operation, it s obviously a federal crime to orchestrate kidnapping that crosses international lines. either way you look at it he s talking about committing a very serious crime if these allegations are proven to be
true. matthew, how does this continue to haunt the administration that, after all, continues even though the traveling white house right now is on the other side of the world? in some ways it s convenient that they re over there in asia for now while this news drops. sarah sanders and the rest will have to confront this when they get back. it would be hard to overstate how serious this is. obviously the manafort indictment was serious for which white house. that was someone who left the campaign in august mike flynn was with the campaign through the end, prominent in the transition and served in the white house over the warnings of the president obama who told president trump not to hire him. and you have to remember it was michael flynn who donald trump was defending to james comey and said can t we find a way to let this go? he went on to later fire james comey which led to bob mueller getting here in the first place. this flynn case is very, very serious for the white house, more serious than the manafort case. matthew, let s go deeper on
$1 million in three years on business suits out of a place in cypress, these guys are not going to do 25 years in jail. that s why bob mueller s going about this the way that he is. he knows these guys are not seasoned criminals and he knows they re going to roll over on each other. mark my words, it will start becoming a race to the special counsel s office. i also heard someone today refer to mueller as an back y preci they ve gone about the case so far. that s clear. that s the point behind the substance and heft of the manafort gates indictment to get them to cooperate. similarly, here, they have charges they could bring on flynn already. the registration, the foreign agents registration act defense and false statement offense is not enough to get him to flip. you bring potentially, if they can, these charges which are significantly more serious, and flynn already, unlike manafort, has indicated an interest in getting immunity and perhaps
cooperating. i think they think if they can get a serious enough offense against flynn he s definitely flipping. do you concur with what seems to be the present attitude we know between 1% and 10% going on between all reporting, mueller runs a tight ship. that s right. that s the way it should be honestly. these are confidential investigations going on. until they bring actions that are meant to be public then i agree they should stay confidential despite the great work of the news media. we have a lot of work to do still. we ll find out in time. matt, let s delve briefly into the trump agenda. while all this is going on, we re hearing a lot about tax cuts and tax reform and soon the traveling circus is going to come back to town and we re going to be all about capitol hill once again. that s right. i mean, we know this administration has a hard time driving one message. we ve seen that this week when
tax reform and the asia trip were supposed to the big thing. obviously roy moore made short work of that. between this controversy down in alabama and the white house having to answer for that, and mueller s investigation expanding, and these new questions about flynn, you couple that with the fact that this tax bill looks like it actually raises taxes on a fair amount of middle class families, that s a lot of issues for the white house to be coming back to, this is not an environment that s friendly to complex and politically difficult as tax reform. our thanks to the leadoff panel for leading off coverage on friday night. julia apes l julia apes lee, matthew nussbaum, jennifer rogers. coming up, supporters announced no longer supporting roy moore. live to vietnam, the most controversial item on the president s agenda prior to wheels up and heading home, the
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with a 14-year-old girl back in 1979. moore was then a 32-year-old assistant da at the time. the post also interviewed three other women who said moore took them on dates when they were teenagers. nbc news has not verified the allegations. the reporting is based on over 30 sbeinterviews of people who w moore during that time. the women have not filed police reports or civil suits. more than a dozen republicans have called on moore to step aside if the allegations prove to be true. just three senators, john mccain, mike lee and steve daines have fully denounced moore as a candidate. and former gop mitt romney wrote on twitter today, innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. i believe lee corfman, the woman in the article, her account is too serious to ignore. moore is unfit for office and should step aside. president trump continues his
asia trip this week, hasn t addressed these allegations directly. today, however, during a press briefing on board air force one, press secretary sarah huckabee sanders chose her words carefully here. like most americans, the president believes we cannot allow a mere allegation, in this case one from many years ago, to destroy a person s life. however, the president also believes that if these allegations are true, judge moore will do the right thing and step aside. well, let s talk about all of this. stuart stevens is with us tonight. he s a campaign and political veteran. he served as mitt romney s chef strategist for the 2012 campaign. and indira is back with us. thank you for being with us. stuart what s going on here, a day s full of news coverage today, various people coming on television and radio, normalizing an adult and a teenage girl. listen, it s really not
complicated. roy moore in this interview with sean hannity did what all the bad guys do in law and order when they don t have a lawyer, he basically indicted himself. he said it was in his 30s, assistant district attorney, did go out with girls young enough he had to ask their moms for permission. i guess he thought that was a defense. but, i mean, look, if you re in your 30s and you re going to take girls young enough you feel like you have to ask their mother, that should have been the first clue that something was off. and so he s saying these girls are 16, 17 and he was attracted to them in his 30s, which is weird. but he wasn t doesn t have any can t imagine him doing anything with someone a couple years younger. i mean, look, he should step aside. it s clear. it s a disgrace. where is your party, stuart, and where are the profiles in the u.s. senate for starters? this is a situation where the
president could be very helpful. he s wildly popular with republicans in alabama. i think that they would listen to him and i think the president should look at this and ask roy moore to step aside. there are various mechanisms that could still guarantee republicans have a shot at this election. otherwise, to condone this, to accept it is to condone it. if you don t call it out, in my view you re cone doning it. indira, your view of what is we re witnessing here? i ll give you another curve ball, the bannon effect on all of this. right, well, of course, steve bannon, the guy who backed roy moore and pushed for him against luther strange who would have been the more mainstream candidate. what i have to say about this, there s so many disturbing elements. one is, as stuart said, that during this interview with sean hannity that roy moore essentially said, well i did know two of these four women.
not only did he say well, i never asked any teenager out without getting her mom s permission which, again, sort of stunning and shocking that he was doing it if the first place. then he said the girl who he supposedly plied with alcohol when she was underage, oh, i m sure i didn t do and that she didn t drink underage, i remember her as being a good girl. immediately putting the blame on the young woman herself. the other thing that s so disturbing is how the alabama gop has reacted. i mean, pretty much across the board, alabama republicans have stood by him saying that even if these allegations are true, that they still would vote for him over the democrat and one of them, the auditor general of the state compared this to mar yan joseph and said mary was a teenager and joseph was an adult carpenter, and they were parents of jesus. and i thought, oh, my goodness, the bible says that mary was a virgin. and that god was the father of jesus and how in the world can you use this to justify dating
teenage girls? it s appalling. and, you know, the senators in the u.s. senate who are coming out against him keep saying if true, if true he should step down. how are we supposed to prove this? what do these four women have to gain putting their names out there, their entire life histories. the washington post sought them out, and really did bullet proof reporting on this i find very hard for anyone to say that s not true. that required some courage from the women they encountered and interviewed. also, indira i ve heard it said this week that, if true, has become, as phraseology goes, if true, has become the thoughts and prayers of last week. exactly. so stuart, on the bannon angle, we have this immovable object who is going to be a part of our politics whether republicans or democrats like it or not. i want to play for you jeremy
peters of the new york times talking to steve bannon about the majority leader in the u.s. senate. we ll talk about it on the other side. do you think mitch mcconnell will be the majority at this time next year. i do not. is that your personal mission to make that not happen? it s not my personal mission but it is an objective i have an objective that mitch mcconnell will not be majority leader and it will be done before this time next year. stuart, what do you make of that threat? the idea we re on national television talking about a weird doe like steve bannon is stunning. this guy was in the hate business at breitbart. the thought he latched onto this campaign, he seems to think people were voting for him. i don t think anybody cares what steve bannon says. he s not a republican in any sort of sense of what it is.
he s called himself a len nonnist. i think he s someone who obviously doesn t look like a very happy person who s kind of working through these issues on a national platform. well, indira how else to explain what a weird turn our politics have taken? it s upsetting. when there are republican strategists out there like stuart who are taking a stand and saying this is wrong, at least we can have hope, mitt romney coming out and taking such a strong stand i also thought was extremely reassuring and, you know, we know that, of course, he s looking into a senate campaign from all the reporting. i want to contrast this moment in history, though, to 2012 when todd achen, you may remember, was the republican who was running in missouri against claire mis mccaskill. in legitimate rape.
if you remember he was so roundly attacked for that. women s groups like emily s list raised money against him. he was defeated, of course. what is really different here is the way that even though there have been all these avalanche of allegations of sexual misconduct coming out in all different professions now, ever since the harvey weinstein thing, that the alabama republican party and the current senate gop we have is still at this moment backing him, as you say, using this if true, without ever telling us how are we supposed to prove whether it s true or not, again when these women have nothing to gain from this other than putting their names out there in a very embarrassing way. i hope they ll be more in the party who will stand up about this and really push roy moore aside so that there can be a better republican candidate who can run in this race. indira, always a pleasure having you on. stuart it s great to have you back on our broadcast.
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through it. peggy noonan is here. we re fortunate to say, also an msnbc political analyst. welcome, as always. thank you. i d like to take you far back in history to a simpler time, tuesday night. so long ago. with these news cycles it sounds like it s a year ago. what happened in virginia, and i ask you knowing a bit about your theory it was broader and deeper than virginia. yeah, we had westchester and long island that had been reliably kind of republicanish and suddenly we re kind of democratish, new jersey wasn t surprising. here s the thing about virginia. everybody thought it would be close. everybody thought ed gillespie might be catching up as he caught up with mark warner a few years ago. and yet it was a blowout, just a blowout. he lost really big. the issue i think the president took it right in the face in
this, the issue was donald trump. spoke to a whole lot of people down there, also was down there on my own. this was about trump and it was about people saying i don t like what you ve been doing. it was an indignant reaction to him. a republican office holder told me literally people were showing up at voting places saying i m here to vote against trump. so that is it was a rout and it was a warning for the white house, and for trump supporters who always have a sense of i think they always think their numbers are much bigger than they are. and i think they re not sufficiently disturbed about the president s inability to expand from a core so far an indy soluble core. it s the big story of the first year. with all that as the
predicate, what is happening in alabama? what about when the bills come due for this conversation going on in the country? the sexual harassment thing? oh, man, this is huge, it s really epic. in my time as an adult i have never seen a country suddenly take issues of sexual harassment and abuse in the workplace so seriously. i think the key here is, first of all, journalistic entities, newspapers and magazines, should be should be patting themselves on the back for having committed the resources and the time. you know how time consuming these investigations are. that s right. they re real investigations. they re not just this happened today. it s something where an editor has to say, okay, you can take two months and we re going to put ten people on it and they get the story. what it comes down to, the big change now is that predators have good reason to believe in the future they will not get away with it.
why? because on sexual harassment we ve broken the code. old cases used to be he said, she said. the cases now that are so convincing and believable have to do with numbers, the sheer number of people giving their testimony, both with their names or not named. and the sheer detection of patterns. it s what got harvey weinstein. it s what s gotten a lot of these fellas. it s i m so interested in the fact that it s hit so many political and media and show business personalities. somebody said earlier today it s as if everybody in front of a camera is nuts. you know? in 30 seconds or less, your reaction to the great newspaper war of 2017. it happened too late to save print, per se, but to your point, these are great days to be in the news media business. oh, yes. you know, many people are disturbed that institutions and
american life are failing. you know what? the law seems to be doing pretty well. the courts seem to be doing pretty well. journalism as i observe is flourishing. i have my own problems with what i perceive to be its bias, narrowly class-based look at the world. that s right. that having been said, investigative prowess and the joy of you sense in newspapers and magazines lately, the joy of getting up in the morning and going after the story. i think it s actually moving to see. i love it. at another date we ll debate the word joy in the morning. i keep going too long. somewhere between joy and trepidation. always a pleasure. thank you very much, peggy noonan as always for spending time with us in the studio. the president is a world away. we are tracking his travels, we re live in vietnam after the break. i saw the change in rich when we moved into the new house.
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three days remaining in the president s asia trip after his stop in vietnam. the president heads to the philippines where he s expected to meet with the president, rod re reco duterte, condemned by human rights groups. last may trump drew fire for saying duterte doing, quote, an unbelievable job. with us in vietnam is jonathan la mere. we last saw jonathan in one of the photos from this trip on board a u.s. military helicopter with another of our friends, ashley parker of the washington post. great to see the kids grow up and fly around in black hawks. we re also joined tonight by one
of jonathan s colleagues in washington as we welcome to the broadcast ken thomas, also an a.p. white house reporter. jonathan, i m told we have a sizable satellite delay between you and us, but i ll go ahead and ask, was there as much surprise on the trip as there was back here to hear the president s comments on china after running so hard against china in the campaign and as president saying he really doesn t blame china for what they ve been up to economically vis-a-vis the u.s.? there s no question, brian, that the president pulled his punches. we know night after night on the campaign trail, rally after rally, he accused china of manipulating the currency, of healthy and terrible trade imbalance. he one night said china is raping our country. we heard none of that in beijing. he flattered the president and
the skill of chinese negotiator. in the room he was set up to scold the president, and he didn t. he said he didn t blame china, he blamed the u.s. predecessors. white house aides have said this was deliberate, the i don t blame line was not in the president s prepared remarks. the sentiment was they feel like better off with the chinese to flatter them, not embarrass them publicly, but to work behind closed doors towards the issues, not just of trade, but also north korea. so, ken, there s all the evidence that this was intentional and they re willing to live with how different this looks and sounds from the guy who was campaigning to the base because they say they re going to do the work of this gathering behind the scenes. that s right. i think they feel like, you know, it was better to flatter
shi, try to establish a relationship, accept his hospitality and not say anything in front of him that would humiliate him. this is an important relationship on north korea. he s trying to get shi s help on north korea. and, you know, to go after him publicly on trade, i think, would have probably sent the wrong signal. ken, do you think that s a sign? and we don t mean anything patronizing here, that there is a diplomatic maturity at work where the u.s.-china relationship is concerned? it s possible. i think there s also a realization that this is a huge piece of the portfolio, that the president really feels like if he can establish good personal ties with shi, that it will pay dividends down the road as it relates to north korea, as it relates to perhaps improving the trade imbalance. all right, jonathan lamere,
preview the philippines portion of this trip. this is fraught, and of course it s had a long-term relationship with the united states. that s right. the president goes to the philippines on sunday here in asia. we, as you chronicled, president duterte has sanctioned a drug war that includes extrajudicial killings. he has bragged on the personally killing a man, at least one in his life. it has certainly been customary for presidents past to use moments like this to chide, to rebuke, to school on human rights, to make that public statement about why these kind of things are not american values. i don t think we should expect to see this president do that here. the white house has sent signals, they say if trump delivers any kind of message like that, it will be done in private, not be done in public to upset duterte. they value this relationship with the philippines.
they don t want to push philippin philippines closer to beijing. this is a pattern. it s a president who has co zied up to strong men. putin in russia, this week we saw it with shi, no mention of human rights violations or individual liberties in china. that s not what this president does, that s not his style. i would think despite uproar from human rights organizations around the globe as to what s been done in the drug war, the president will not talk about it publicly. foreign and domestic tonight, jonathan laleer, ken thomas, thank you for coming on our broadcast. another break for us. coming up our next guest considers it his job to regularly remind us these are not normal times we re witnessing. that when the 11th hour continues. whoooo.
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it s not normal for the president to obsess about cable news coverage of himself. it s not normal for the president to publicly criticize the mayor of london on the basis of flawed facts right after a terror attack that s killed seven people. it s not normal for the president to attack, and this is purely hypothetical, of course, tv news hoes by name, including a personal attack on a woman s intellect and appearance. brian, it s not normal. that was from this very broadcast on the six-month mark of the trump presidency. that was mike allen, our veteran of our business, cofounder of the news site axios, cofounder of politico. he s worked at the new york times, the washington post, time magazine among others, we re happy to have you back, mike allen. i m guessing your look at what s not normal, the lead story tonight would be attempts to normalize any kind of relationship between an adult
male and a 14-year-old girl. certainly not normal, brian, and brian, tonight is going to be meet the cousins night. i have a couple of cousins for you. cousins of it s not normal. one of them is never before. so brian, never before have we had a president who would publicly threaten, prod the justice department and his own prosecutors to go after the opposition party as the president has done over the donna brazil incident in the democratic party. never before, brian, have members of the president s own party been so reluctant to say what they said privately. a couple senators, senator mccain, senator flake of arizona, corker of tennessee, publicly denouncing this president. privately as you know they ll
say plenty. publicly as you said at the top of the broadcast, this is the president s party, no doubt. mike allen, you have published a number, i call it the pessimism index. this really got got our attenti. 59% of americans believe that the united states is currently undergoing the lowest point in its history. this is according to the american psychological association s annual stress in america poll. but notably this includes 56% of those hague 72 and over who lived through pearl harbor, world war ii and 59% of millennials came of age post 9/11. is the most depressing number i ve seen published in recent times. and i ll have to tell you some of the news we covered tonight this seems like the number is true. what s so striking to me
about that and congruent with the reporting throughout the country, this is not just the bubble. so much of what we talk about has to do with the beltway or perhaps silicon valley bubble or d.c. or new york bubble. no, this is america. and like you ve always been so in touch with america, red states, blue states. and even in states where the president won, and the nbc wall street journal poll this week showed erosion even in the trump counties and trump states. so there you have it down to the county level. then the cover of the economist this week, they have the bald eagle with donald trump trulike hair and saying endamaged, americas stand in the world. so, brian, it s not normal for the president to walk away from some of the powers of the presidency. rather than projecting power
abroad, rather than at home, acting as the consoler in chief, another power of the presidency. it s not normal for the president to put those aside. so the last time we talked, the president had, the little clip you showed, the president attacking london. after the bike path in new york, you have the president attacking the leader of the democrat of the chuck schumer allowing him to be the country. that s normalal. thank you for preserving your role of what normal is should be. the coproducer of axios. thank you. never before, brian. happy weekend. you too. after a break, a story you may not know about someone you ve seen on the air on the the 11th hour many times before.
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as the nice man to comes in on occasion to analyze military stories. most folks have no idea what jack jabs objeccobs was capable earned him the highest honore. here is what was led allowed. for a conspicuous in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, captain jacobs, then first lieutenant, distinguished himself as serving as second battalion 16th infantry army of the republic of vietnam. when it came under intense heavy machine gun and mortar fire from viet cong. as the second battalion deployed in attack formation, its advance
was held by fire. with the command of the company called for air strikes on the positions to facilitate a renewed attack. due to intensity of the heavy casualties including the company commander, the attack stopped, and the friendly troops became disorganized. although wounded by mortar fragments, captain jacobs assumed command of the allied company, ordered withdrawal from the exposed position, and established a defensive per immer. despite bleeding from head wounds, with complete disregard from his safety, returned under intense fire to evacuate a seriously wounded adviser to the safety of a wooded area where he administered life saving first aid. then returned through heavy automatic weapons fire to evacuate the commander. captain jacobs made many troops across the rice paddies evacuating wounded and weapons
of the on three separate occasions he drove off viet cong squads, single handedly killing three and wounding others. his actions and extraordinary heroism saved the life of one u.s. adviser and 13 allied soldiers. through his effort the allied company was restored to effective fighting unit and prevented defeat of the friendly forces by a strong and determined enemy. captain jacobs by his gal anty and bravery in action in the highest traditions of the military service has reflected great credit upon himself, his unit, and the u.s. army. that was the citation for our friend jack jacobs and that is what veterans day should be about, for jack and people who have worn the uniform.

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testimony before congressional investigators, they say he told the senate judiciary committee that he personally had not had any contact with wikileaks during the campaign. he also said he could not recall anyone else on the campaign having contact with wikileaks. the senate judiciary committee earlier this week published a letter in which they say specifically that jared kushner not only received an e-mail detailing his contact with wikileaks, but then forwarded that as well. that letter signed by dianne feinstein and chuck grassley also claims that jared kushner failed to provide them with certain key documents they requested. some of them specifically pertaining to wikileaks. the attorney for jared kushner abby lowell put out a statement saying senators are asking gotcha questions. here s what he told us. this is a classic gotcha question. mr. kushner was asked if he has contacts with wikileaks.
gucifer or d.c. leaks, and he said no. he said he didn t know of any such contacts from the campaign. from all i have seen, his statement was accurate then as it is now, in over six hours of voluntary testimony, he asked all questions put to him and demonstrated there had not been any collusion between the campaign and russia. the attorney for jared kushner also saying that all documents have been requested by the committee were turned over. seems like there s a dispute about what documents they requested. that may mean as you said that jared kushner will head back to capitol hill to testify once more. those are the congressional probes into russia and the trump campaign and perhaps obstruction of justice issues. there s a special counsel investigation, boris. a prominent member of trump s inner circle is about to be interviewed by mueller s team.
what can you tell us? reporter: that would be hope hicks. she has been a long time confidant of the president, served from very early on in the campaign all the way to his aministration. she s now white house communications director. she s arguably the closest person to the president that s going to be meeting with robert mueller. she was also there for key moments that you re almost certain he is going to ask about, specifically the crafting of the response on air force one when it was revealed after months of denials, donald trump jr. met with russians during the campaign. hope hicks is expected to meet with special counsel before the end of the month. appreciate that. thank you. a lot of news to talk about with the panel. joining us to discuss, crime and justice reporter, contributor, staff writer, and cnn legal analyst paul callan.
nondisclosures, omissions seem to be a pattern for jared kushner. we know he left off that meeting with the russian lawyer on the security clearance form. there s now an e-mail chain on wikileaks, russian back door overtour, communications with michael flynn that the senate judiciary committee is asking about. yet kushner s lawyer says he has been completely cooperative. do you agree? he has. abby said they re asking gotcha questions. in the press, we use that term. a lot of people don t know what a gotcha question is. it is a question designed just to embarrass somebody in the political system as opposed to legitimately get information. lowell s contention is they complied to the specific requests given for relevant documents. he also says technically jared kushner s answer was accurate
because he said i did not conclude with the russian story, nor did i know anyone that did. that would include don junior. he would say the communication don junior had with wikileaks or with the russians didn t constitute collusion. that s how the defense will shape up from that standpoint. all of that technical wording, you don t see legal trouble for jared kushner. no. to make a perjury count or obstruction of justice count, you would have to show intentional act to deceive congress and this is close enough to the line it would be a hard criminal charge to prove. yet both leaders of the judiciary committee seem to have a problem with kushner s response to some testimony and the document request. could this have impact on kushner s security clearance? well, you know, his security clearance remains unresolved as far as we know going on ten
months now because the forms were not properly submitted to include his contacts with foreigners, not just the russians, but all foreigners. so there s been a series of hiccups in his disclosures which have obviously made it harder for investigators, people adjudicating his clearance to reach a conclusion. i am not sure this additional omission if indeed was an omission to the congressional committees would be a factor that people adjudicating his security clearance would weigh. they re looking at he, jared, is somebody that s of interest to the investigation by the special counsel. they re interested in why he did not disclose certain things, and obviously they have been interviewing people. the interplay between security clearance and mueller investigation is sort of unclear
to us how one may be impacting another or whether they re completely on different tracks. clearly there s an issue we don t have visibility into the reasons holding up that clearance. president trump s communication director hope hicks we know will be interviewed by special counsel, robert mueller s team. we know she s one of his closest, longest serving aides. what could she know? i think boris said it when he talked about her. she has been by the president s side quite some time. what we know based on some reporting that we have done, there s a lot of interest with her around the air force one meeting where they were crafting the statement regarding the meeting, donald trump jr. s meeting at trump tower. the new york times was working on the story, getting ready to publish. a statement was being crafted.
she was prepsent. it could be that s what mueller wants to talk to her about. could be other things, the koeccomey firing. she could serve as witness to key decisions the president has made. it is not clear she was part of any team making the decisions, but certainly she could be a witness to the people sort of witnessing what they re doing, how they re coming to make some of the decisions. as we know, one of the things mueller is investigating is obstruction of justice by people within the white house. she could be a witness to any number of those things. i would assume there s a method in terms of when you bring somebody in to testify, even if you have your list of who you want to talk to, you want to gather information in some cases before you bring them in. what does this tell you about where they might be in the investigation, now that they re
at that point where hope hicks will be talking to them? mueller is methodical in the investigation. you can see a large circle around the white house, then he started to move in closer and closer to the real insiders. that s where he s at now. he s at the people right around the president. frankly, you don t know what s going to happen when you get that close. i ll give you an example. in the nixon proceedings, impeachment proceedings, they interviewed alexander butterfield, staff member that worked in the white house, they found out about a taping system that nobody knew about before, so you never know what s going to come when you get to the insiders running the white house. that s where mueller is. i think his investigation is focused, moving quickly, and i think there will be a lot of stories come out in the next couple of months good or bad for the trump administration. adam, the other person we learned robert mueller wants to talk to is rock goldstone, he helped arrange that meeting in
june, 2016. apparently he agreed to talk to mueller. and kushner, paul manafort, they were all at the meeting. what may goldstone know that no one else knows? why is he so important? i think mueller, i think we all want to know why he included in his e-mail to donald trump jr. saying the russians are offering incriminating information on hillary clinton. where did he get that language? did somebody instruct him to put that language in that e-mail? obviously that s something that the investigators very much want to get to the bottom of. in addition, why is he volunteering to come. i think the reason he is making himself available is that he wants to appear publicly, maybe genuinely he is trying to be and appear cooperative. this is a strategy that you see from the white house as well,
from jared kushner. it is a strategy to try to dispel the idea that there s an effort to hide anything. so by volunteering and making himself available without needing to be a subpoena is one way to try to dispel, tamp down suggestions something more nefarious is going on. he is going to try to clear the air. whether that does clear the air, we have to wait and see. attorney general jeff sessions cracked a joke about the russia investigation. let s listen. i just was thinking, is ambassador kislyak in the room before i get started here? any russians? he is there before a friendly crowd, but is it risky for the attorney general to be making a
joke of this, especially on the heels of that testimony that he had earlier this week when he couldn t seem to recall a whole lot when it came to the questions about russia and his connections. ana, when i heard that, i chuckled, i think most of us did. the reason he made that joke is because he was at a hotel where there was intelligence back last year indicating that there may have been another meeting there with the attorney general and kislyak. he had to actually answer questions about it and he has denied it. there was maybe some different takes on what exactly went on at the hotel, but there was intelligence that indicated there may have been a third meeting. he has denied it. in fact, the fbi director, former fbi director comey when he testified after he was fired, it was asked this question of whether sessions had another meeting. he wouldn t respond to it.
he did at some point address it in closed door sessions. like you said, i think it is risky given how serious some are taking this investigation. the mueller investigators take this serious. yeah, it is sort of risky, perhaps somewhat funny, but for an attorney general who is still continuing to ask questions, to have to answer questions about his contacts with russia, certainly not the most appropriate time to make that joke. you know, ana, who would think we get to the point jeff sessions is funnier than al franken. that s where it has gone at this point. all right. thank you. we appreciate all of you. coming up, president trump takes a swipe at al franken for sexual harassment. is this tricky territory for him considering this? every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my
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franken picture is bad, speaks a thousand words. where do his hands go in pictures 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 while she sleeps. more than a dozen women accused the president on the record of assault and harassment. and of course there s this. when you re a star, they let you do that. grab them by the [bleep]. you can do anything. to all that, the president has said this. every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign. total fabrication. i want to bring in someone that literally wrote the book on political optics. josh king is the author of off script. and with us, lynn sweet, washington bureau chief for chicago sun times. thank you both for being here. josh, were you surprised the president would go after franken?
not really. this is a person who will seize on any particlar news at any particular time and try to draw attention to himself. if you look at the time stamp of the two tweets, first one comes at 9:06:00 p.m. thursday night. these are not normal working hours for a president. you can imagine donald trump on the second floor of the white house, probably watching your competitor, watching the top of the news wrap, getting this smart idea in his head that he should take on a person who has been a tough critic of himself, al franken, and send those tweets. they re sent in quick succession. they re the normal kind of trump bullying, trying to take the upper hand. when you point out in the quick package at the top of the segment, he is a guy in a glass house throwing stones with 12 or 13 accusers of his own.
and the fact that you and i are sitting, having this segment now on a saturday night after he did that on a thursday night is testament to the idea that it is not that good for him to have what is now three days of news cycle questioning his judgment on sending a tweet like this thursday night. he hasn t addressed the roy moore situation. exactly. and that s part of it. he is talking al franken, and three days later, still talking about it. on the franken story, done junior tweeted this. is it still alleged when there s a picture? could that logic be applied to his father s access hollywood tape? of course. i don t know why don junior wants to start up. al franken put out a statement, called for ethics committee investigation of himself. he didn t deny the reality of the photo or anything that the woman, a los angeles
broadcaster, said. he also had to take it. a lot of democrats also condemned what he did, including fellow senator from minnesota, a amy kobishar. it goes to what sense does don junior have wasting time doing this when it will of course trigger more discussions of what his father said, which is on videotape, which you just played. sometimes i think you need a psychiatrist and psychologist here to talk about this more than journalists or former advance men to understand why somebody would do something that ends up it seems that brings up stories of their own past poor behavior, or in the case of donald, his father s. it certainly created more questions for the white house press secretary sarah sanders who was asked how franken s case
differed from the president. senator franken admitted wrongdoing, and the president haept. that s a clear distinction. can you make that argument, a year ago trump lined up bill clinton s accusers at the presidential debate and said believe these women. josh? you know, it wasn t a wise move back then and for president trump to be talking about al franken thursday night wasn t a wise move a year later. sarah sanders friday in her press briefing did her best jto deflate this situation. one who admitted to it, one who didn t. we re probably a year away from mid term elections. president trump will be asked about this repeatedly between now and then. i think al franken to be sure our facts are straight. he didn t necessarily admit
fully to the allegations, the kiss in particular. he said i remembered it differently. and the picture is proof of something that was inappropriate. the sexual harassment debate is bigger, it revived questions about the behavior of former president bill clinton with democratic senator kristin gillibrand saying he should have resigned over the lewinsky affair. i asked clinton s former chief of staff about that statement. let s listen. my only judgment with regards to president clinton is that he more than paid the price for what he did. the fact that he went through impeachment process as president of the united states, the house of representatives voted for articles of impeachment, the senate did not, but the mere fact that he went through an impeachment process as president means that there will always be
a shadow on the legacy of his presidency. from my point of view, i think he s more than paid the price. lynn, has clinton paid the price, have democrats had a reckoning on what happened in the clinton era, can we in effect move on? thank you for asking. i covered this ex-tensism. i covered theism peechlt and trial. people out there, if you want spicy reading, please google the ken starr report that came out the summer before. you can get nice bedtime reading. this is some of the most humiliating information about a sitting president you could ask for. there s a lot of ways to punish somebody for behavior. resignation might be one. in the case of bill clinton, all the women you just showed, and i want america to know, it is not like no one has heard from them,
it is a president who will as you more than, i don t know if more or less a price, but he paid one. all of the women from paula jones and everyone had their stories told. there was great interest in talking to them. we could disagree if stories were favorable or not, but there was enormous coverage of what they accused president clinton of, and in a lot of detail, including details of what he did, where and what with monica lewinsky. if you think this hasn t been litigated, it has been, and it is worth talking about if he should have resigned or not, but it is not as if he did not pay a price. this is what we have gotten from the president himself on roy moore. should roy moore resign, mr. president? do you believe the accusers? should he resign?
josh, reporters shouting questions, the president walking away. you re a former advance man, you know this is going to keep hatching. how do you handle it? well, ana, those questions were asked of the president in the diplomatic reception room thursday. this was the big read out speech from the asia trip, he had been speaking about 30 minutes. and the pool is escorted into the room to be able to witness these remarks. there s no way to get out of the scene like this without ducking the questions as he did. the president may put out a statement on the asian trip that was in the graft of statements that said if these allegations are true, moore should step aside. since then, so many republican colleagues qualified that answer by saying he should step aside. the president hasn t yet done that. i think he walks a thin line between upsetting his base who
he thinks would not want him to criticize or withdraw his support of roy moore and trying to get out of dodge basically without answering questions. it is difficult to know how many more days he could avoid being on camera, being asked this question. sarah sanders answered many times it is for the voters of alabama to decide but sometime soon the president is going to be on camera in a situation like this, asked that question in a way he can t walk away and will have to answer it. the election is a few weeks away, not until december 12th. there s time for more questions to come forward. interesting to see if he changes his response. thank you both so much. thank you. another woman comes forward with allegations against senate candidate roy moore. how are alabama voters reacting to this? the moment we walked in, it
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flirtatious and commenting constantly the whole time. it was not like for five minutes it was like you were there a long period of time. it was so uncomfortable. i knew something was up but i just ignored it, you know, just what it was. he proceeded to come to the end of the desk and really close up on me. you said so close you could feel his breath? his knee might have been touching my knee. his hands were not on me, just like maybe his knee was brushing minor something. and then when it was time for us to leave, my mother had got up and left the room to go out the door. when she was going out the door and i proceeded out, he just grabbed me from behind on my
buttocks and squeezed it really hard. i remember thinking i was so ashamed. i felt humiliated in that moment. it took everything out of me. despite the growing list of accusers, moore is vowing to stay in the senate race. nick valencia has the latest from alabama. nick? reporter: ana, this has been a difficult week for the republican senate candidate in the face of sexual assault allegations. however, he and his campaign remained defiant. earlier this week we saw faith leaders come to the defense of moore saying his character is being assassinated, that he is being framed by the gop establishment. they went so far to suggest the washington post which initially wrote the story paid women to come forward. the women for their part say they waited nearly 40 years to tell their stories because they felt at the time of the alleged incidents, no one would listen to them. earlier today, we heard from faith leaders in birmingham to
convened to say they believe roy moore is a danger to the state of alabama because of his policies and principles. it is unlikely that any of moore s accusers can prove he sexual assaulted them 30 years ago. a point the former judge knows well. but even, and this is critical, particularly for the media to hear, and where we have to stand as christian ministers, even before these allegations made national headlines it was clear that moore s policy agenda endangered children of alabama. perhaps moore s biggest supporter, his wife who was joined by 30 or 40 women saying they personally know moore and the accusations leveled against him don t speak to the character of the man they know. kayla moore said she and her husband are in a political fight and that the battle will continue to go on.
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reporter: to hear horseback riding, hunting, handshaking secretary of the interior tell it, his official trips are a model of transparency. every time i travel i submit the travel plan to the ethics department that evaluate it line by line to make sure i am above the law. and i follow the law. reporter: a probe by his own department s inspector general casting serious doubt on that claim. our investigation has been delayed, mary kendall wrote in a memo by absent or incomplete documentation for several pertinent trips and review process that failed to include proper documentation and accountability. among the trips drawing scrutiny, flight to virgin islands in march where he attended a republican fund-raiser, went snorkeling at a monument. a trip to montana in may where he attended a political rally, spent a day and a half at his home.
in general, journey to meet with the hockey team in las vegas, owned by a political backer, before taking a chartered plane. even though he spent almost $73,000 this way since taking office, zinke is making no apologies. i would like to address in the words of general schwarzkopf a little bs on travel. reporter: zinke s staff says part of the problem is paperwork mess inherited from the obama administration. inspectors investigation is not done and they issued this memo in hopes of addressing the matter. still, several other cabinet members are also being scrutinized. one has already resigned over questions about what in some cases looks suspiciously like private travel on the public s
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we investigate this issue in the tech industry, including one silicon valley startup sued for a culture of sexual harassment and sexism. that included a space in the office called a kink room. we had a room at the office that was called a kink room. we had a kink demo in there before i started. anybody that attended our event would very much know there s an bed, it wasn t like an office party, it was a party. so people probably used the room for god knows what. did you ever have to come in and clean up the party? most definitely. i would at times find underwear in that room.
reporter: you had to clean up underwear from your party. that is the truth. silicon valley has a dirty undertruth and that is that women have to clean up underwear and do the dishes. it was generally known that i as general manager that i did the dishes. we had a male general manager before and he did not do that. that being said, people would help me but it was very much my role and it was very much distinct to me and not necessarily the general manager role. what a revealing interview. what happened with this company? for me, i look at it and it was a perfect storm. i ve spoken to the upload founders and they said it wasn t just the women that did the dishes, it s the role that they had but everyone pitched in. i m thinking, it s 2017 and we re having a conversation
about women who say they had to clean up underwear and condoms from parties and it was a startup. the idea was to make virtual reality cool so they would throw these parties. and down the road, it took a lawsuit, a woman named elizabeth, who is not really allowed to speak about it because it s been setstled. daisy said she was the one handed the lawsuit when it came in. she said it wasn t until i saw it all in writing that i knew it wasn t okay, what happened there. this is where we get into the idea of the me-too movement. you see other victims of sexual harassment coming forward and sharing their story. i think that s what spurred it. and personally having covered tech for so many years, i started thinking of some terrible techs axts an investor
me at weird hours. and it s not okay. it s not okay. i think culturally, societally, we sometimes have brushed over this sort of treatment because it s somewhat socially acceptable or is considered normal and what has been exposed is, wait a minute, this shouldn t be normal. and yet we also hear from people who say i was afraid to come forward because of the potential consequences. is anything be done in the tech world to help embolden these women to come forward without the fear of what that could mean for them in their professional lives or personal lives? this is where it s interesting because it s a real problem in tech but tech can always provide a solution. there s actually a company launching in the next couple of weeks called all voices. you have a vp, claire schmidt and a woman named susan fowler.
she was an ub are engineer who spoke out against uber and it shed light on sex i aism and the creating a tech tool to let people know about sexual harassment. we ll see how that works out. you want some kind of solution because it s really difficult to come forward because women, all sorts of people, feel retaliation for speaking out against sexual harassment. real quick, you are also are hearing from men regarding this me-too movement. sure. i was at a tech conference. tell me what someone won t say out loud. a lot of people said we don t want to take meetings after a certain hour, this is a witch hunt right now. we have to find a better way to bring it forward. thank you so much. and the special mostly human
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wind has been picking up those embers and those embers have been skipping from house to house. and the other problem we re hearing about, water pressure, firefighters telling me that they had to let some homes burn because they didn t have enough water pressure in some of those hydrants perhaps because of the power outage. just moments ago, we got the view from above the fire from our affiliate kabc. real concern because of zero containment on these fires so far. from our station in los angeles he s joining us as he s flying over the creek fire, an incredibly busy day, thank you for being with us tonight. you re over a very active scene right now, the creek fire. how large is this and what are you re seeing? well, this fire s 11,000 acres right now, david. we ll take you outside and show you picture of the creek fire. 11,000 acres. and we re using our technology to show you where the fire is burning. and as you can see, there s a lot of smoke obscuring the fire and this is because of the santa
ana conditions. that s obscuring all the homes down there. we can fade in satellite technology, where we can see the homes that are being affected. this fire has moved extremely fast. 30, 40, mile per hour gusts. multiple homes have been destroyed, and this fire is very dangerous in this area and there s no relief in sight. it s really something when you actually place the map on top of that smoke to give us an idea of how many families are being affected by this right now. as we re on the air. you mentioned those santa ana conditions, the winds tonight fueling these fires. and what are authorities saying onthe ground about the winds? these santa ana winds are very strong. they come down through these canyons and the mountains through southern california and they rip through these neighborhoods. we usually get them in october. we re having a very late season. in fact, david, if we tilt up, you can actually see the second fire out in ventura county. we ll use our pointer right in
this area, that s the thomas fire. three major fires, all wind-driven events. all in the southern california, burning simultaneously, thousands are affected. many homes lost. it s a terrible scene out here. we re just trying to stay ahead of it. we re certainly thinking about the families affected by these three separate fires. j.t., thank you. thank you, david. and from j.t. to meteorologist rob marciano tonight. he s also there in the fire zone at this hour. rob, we can see firefighters putting out hot spots. the flames right behind you, the winds are supposed to keep coming? reporter: they are. these fire crews under structure protection, just came into this area, this has been one of the more explosive regions in the fire zone today. the winds got the flames rolling in a hurry. and you can see these guys hard at work, no doubt about that. the wind is still blowing, smoke, dust, horrible conditions out here. want to show you the setup, classic santa ana winds. with the high pressure in control over the mountains. offshore winds, high fire danger. we ve got the high wind warnings
out tonight. and gusts that should continue. a bit of a break tomorrow morning, but another shot coming tomorrow night by thursday morning, might be a worst setup than it was last night. not something these firefighters on the ground want to hear. david. rob, watching this into the night. be safe, rob. those firefighters hard at work tonight. the other breaking headline at this hour, president trump is expected to officially recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel tomorrow. if so, it would be a momentum shift in u.s. s foreign policy. and tonight, the president s phone calls with several world leaders, some are very concerned about this move and potential flare-ups and even the u.s. military is on alert at some embassies. abc s martha raddatz tonight. reporter: tonight, president trump s calls to arab leaders one after another prompting new alarm. and this evening, israel is bracing for trouble. recognizing jerusalem as the
the embassy move could take years. all right, so, let s get to martha raddatz with us from washington. as you said there, this announcement expected, making jerusalem the capital of israel. and the move of the u.s. embassy will take time here, but all of this, already causing concern tonight. reporter: that s right, david, u.s. officials are already sending warnings about potential widespread demonstrations starting tomorrow, telling american citizens to avoid places where crowds are gathering, while prohibiting u.s. government employees and their families from entering jerusalem s old city and marine corps fast teams are being sent to provide extra security at some embassies throughout the region, david. all right, we ll be watching this tomorrow. in the meantime, the russia investigation. former national security adviser mike flynn pleading guilty to lying to the fbi, now cooperating with robert mueller. tonight, after the president changed his tone in recent days on michael flynn, our reporter asking, is the president
preparing to pardon flynn? here s abc s senior white house correspondent cecilia vega tonight. reporter: with mike flynn s plea bargain creating new troubles for the white house, today the president was tightlipped on whether he would pardon his former national security adviser. any plans to pardon general flynn, mr. president? thank you very much. any plans to pardon general flynn, mr. president? thank you. reporter: ever since flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi, president trump s reaction decidedly mixed. from uncertainty do you stand by michael flynn, sir? we ll see what happens. reporter: to sympathy. well, i feel badly for general flynn. i feel very badly. he s led a very strong life. hillary clinton lied many times to the fbi. nothing happened to her. flynn lied, and they destroyed his life. reporter: former fbi director james comey testified he had no reason to believe that hillary clinton lied. flynn agreed to cooperate fully with the special counsel investigation. and today the white house press secretary left the door open to a possible pardon.
would he consider pardoning him? i m not aware that has come up or any process or decision on that front. i think before we start discussing the pardons for individuals, we should see, you know, what happens in specific cases too. so, is it fair to say it s on the table? no, i just said i haven t had the conversation with him because i don t feel that it s necessary until you get further down the road and determine whether or not that s even something needed. and cecilia vega back with us live from the white house. reuters and bloomberg first reporting today that deutsche bank has now been subpoenaed by robert mueller s team, but the president s lawyer saying that subpoena has nothing to do with the president. reporter: david, president trump s attorney jay sekulow released a statement. take a look, he said the news reports that the special counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false. no subpoena has been issued or received. we have confirmed this with the
bank and other sources. tonight, we re also learning about the cost for the first four months of the mueller investigation, $6.7 million so far, david. cecilia vega at the white house, thank you. next to alabama senate candidate roy moore and the about-face from the republican national committee. rnc, pulled funding, saying of the multiple women their accusations are quote, very concerning. suddenly now the rnc now helping him again. so, what changed? and tonight, the one republican senator who s now writing a check to roy moore s opponent writing, he s putting country over party. here s tom llamas in alabama tonight. reporter: for the first time, president trump today speaking out about his decision to endorse roy moore, a man accused of molesting teenage girls. i think he s going to do very well. we don t want to have a liberal democrat in alabama, believe me. reporter: the republican national committee had cut ties
with moore when the allegations of abuse surfaced. the allegations were obviously very concerning, and concerning to the degree that we pulled our resources. reporter: but following the president s lead, now the rnc is once again helping roy moore. and on capitol hill, other republicans are also falling in line. senator mitch mcconnell once called on moore to drop out. he s obviously not fit to be in the united states senate. reporter: but then this apparent change in tone. do you believe that judge moore should be in the senate? i m going to let the people of alabama make the call. reporter: today, mcconnell insists he s been consistent. yeah, there s been no change of heart. reporter: some republicans still firmly against moore. senator jeff flake of arizona sending this $100 check to moore s democratic opponent doug jones, writing on the memo line country over party. we can t become a party of roy moore as republicans. reporter: moore has denied any accusation of sexual misconduct, but with one week before the election, jones is
making sure voters don t forget. i damn sure believe that i have done my part to ensure that men who hurt little girls should go to jail and not the united states senate. [ applause ] tonight, roy moore will have a rally here in fairhope, alabama. just behind me, supporters are showing up right now. david, we want to point out, even though the rnc is helping out roy moore the national republican senatorial committee, whose only goal is to help republicans get elected, they re sticking on the sidelines, and the chairman from colorado saying if roy moore gets elected to the senate he should be expelled. david. one week to go in this race. tom llamas, our thanks to you again tonight. next here, congressman conyers under growing pressure after multiple allegations of misconduct announcing that he s now retiring effective today. the first member of congress to exit under this current wave of sexual misconduct allegations.
he did announce his retirement in a call-in to a radio show today from the hospital where he s recovering from stress. i am retiring today and i want everyone to know how much i appreciate the support the incredible, undiminished support i ve received across the years from my supporters. conyers at 88 years old, was the longest serving member of congress and a civil rights pioneer. he s now endorsing his 27-year-old son john in the election to replace him. next to the stunning news on the olympics tonight. the russian team now banned from the 2018 winter games. no flag, no anthem, and the question tonight, how will russia respond? here s abc s chief foreign correspondent terry moran. reporter: russia, a winter olympics powerhouse, triumphant host of the last games in sochi. tonight, banned from next year s competition in south korea because of doping. this is an unprecedented attack on the integrity of the olympic games.
reporter: the international olympic committee s ruling means there will be no russian team. no russian flag. no russian uniform. no russian anthem. the scheme exposed by the former head of russia s anti-doping lab was staggering. the scientist alleging that, during the sochi games, russian intelligence agents posed as maintenance workers, entering the athlete testing lab, then breaking into tamper-proof collection bottles and swapping dirty urine for clean samples. a later report concluded more than 1,000 athletes were involved. vladimir putin has denied it was a state-sponsored coverup. it s unclear tonight how the kremlin will respond. only individual russian athletes who can prove they re not doping will be allowed to compete in the upcoming games, wearing a neutral warmup. no word on whether the kremlin is going to allow that. david. big news today. terry porian, our thanks to you. still much more ahead on world news tonight on tuesday the close call at jfk airport.
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reporter: that s the mexican jetliner going around. it s unclear how close it came to the delta jet at the end of that same runway. tonight, the faa says it s aware of the incident. its controllers issued that go-around order. neither airliner has commented so far. david. david kerley, our thanks to you. when we come back tonight news coming in on jimmy kimmel s baby boy. and that major snowstorm. and the drastic temperature change for much of the country. right behind it. type 2 diabetes.here to test people s knowledge about so you have type 2 diabetes? yes i do.
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