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That i think even on both sides, people want someone that's going to be big and bold. forget policy for a second. you have hillary, who's just not talking. she's just not doing much. she's acting like she's bigger than the campaign itself. and this is where you have a common average guy that's will be to go anywhere talk to anybody and yeah he's talking policy but ultimately they're saying i don't like hillary clinton getting an automatic pass to halfway to the white house. >> mark i have to let, mark's dying to jump in here. i want to who our viewers some of the video you're showing about of ...

Fight to get this thing renewed. congressman, welcome. >> thank you. >> so passing the highway trust fund, it's something we've always done. it's like a gift that gets an automatic pass. yet, this congress, we might not even get that done. that's how bad things currently are. what do you expect will happen here, and what will it mean if it's not passed? >> well, first of all, you're right. failure to pass the highway trust fund and have a sustainable funding source is exhibit a of congressional dysfunction. you know, one of out four bridges throughout the country is in need of desperate repair...

We don't give people an automatic pass, quite honestly. they have to measure up to the job that we expect them to do for everyone. he did inherit a very difficult situation. economically, two of the longest wars in the nation's history. but for the first time of years, until the election of 2010, he seemed not to have an extraordinarily clear, firm idea of how he wanted to lead the country, and how he wanted to -- how he was going to persuade the rest of us that it was in our best interest in the way that he was going to lead the country. >> more of our conversation today at 12:00 noon. we tal...

Full bipartisan support. >> yeah, there's a sudden preoccupation with debt and deficits that hasn't existed for several years. now we have this contentious environment even around something as basic and neglected as the hard infrastructure of the united states. we know about roads, tunnels, and bridges, and there's a bridge, a gap, i should say, between the two parties on this. no matter how much you spend, this should be for everyone effectively an automatic pass. it's desperately needed. it's been neglected. and even the soft infrastructure that the president has talked about, when you talk ...