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presidential debate now, just four days away, that is the live countdown clock. the first major showdown between incumbent president joe biden and former >> the president donald trump, since 2020, and the earliest general election debate in us history. now the two candidates are preparing in very different ways, trump taking a less conventional approach, meeting with potential running mate's and hitting the campaign trail where he's again been mocking the man. he'll be facing off against right now, crooked joe's gone to a log cabin to study, prepare. >> no, he didn't do his sleeping ...

Asked them to get help. winners came by. where she went after that, i have no idea. i found a 45-year-old kid under one of the ladies that was laid on top of him. got him around the corner so he would be out of the carnage. there was nothing else i could do. the others were too far gone. i'll just be honest with you, there is, when you get hit with automatic weapon fire close range, there's no opportunity for survival. there were a couple of people who were still alive that i put in the first police car that showed up, took the key. the second police car showed up, put another victim in there....

The world on law enforcement matters were calling for gun control while the tragedy was unfolding. it took me aback because our political discourse -- people take away a lot of points for making a case on any side. but it's stunning that law enforcement seems to be saying enough as well. >> we're finally hearing the professionals who carry guns for a living saying there are too many guns and the wrong kinds of guns in the wrong hands. i think, nicolle, what really is at the heart of that is the assault rifle component here. if you talk to any law enforcement officer, active duty police officer...

Two days or so that it was the bump stock in las vegas. whether or not this was just a lot of rounds which people on scene could have confused for automatic weapon fire or simply somebody with a semi-automatic rifle. >> we don't know if there was more than one weapon. >> we don't. what makes this so tragic is the fact that inside a church people, similar to what happened in vegas where people were watching the country concert or something here where you have four walls and somebody armed with weaponry that they are able to take lots of lives in short order and people can't get out and get away...

Victor, it is on people's minds. the mayor says you can't see a bunch of rain in a short amount of time and not expect the city of new orleans to get wet. >> kaylee hartung, thank you so much. and arsenal of ammunition. 50 pounds of explosives. mysterious note. police are trying to piece together what they found to determine what led a killer to open fire on that country music concert in las vegas. and more tension between the president and secretary of state. how this could affect the president's chief of staff john kelly.