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Check, far fewer of these killings would happen. the tucson shooter slipped through the background check system. tighten it up, you'll have less opportunity for folks to do this kind of thing. >> in all fairness, the average nra member probably has a low crime rate. probably a very low violence rate. yet their positions on the constitution and their strict abhorrence of any type of gun safety law allows people who are the bad people or crazy people or dangerous people to get those guns. that's a fact. >> we talked about this before, but the interesting thing about the nra is there's a big divi...

I think it requires objectivity that the average nra person is as law-abiding. my brother's a big gun guy. wouldn't kill a deer in a million years. a good buy, but he supports gun rights to the last nth. >> if you read nra members certain polling framing and say do you support a background check for any gun purchase, by and large they'll say yes. and the data backs it up a lot. the question when you get down to it is it more like what you were talking about with me earlier is do you view it as a slippery slope? i think most would say yes. and there's a huge agree graphical component here. than...

Or try to not elect you in the first place. they will be motivated by a singular issue. >> let me talk about this thing with mark. what about the nra and what do you think -- how many days will pass before they comment about what happened in washington today? the shooting of 12 people because they went to work that day, basically, at the navy yard. that's what they did. they went to work. some guy came to shoot people at work. what are the nra going to say about this? it's senseless beyond senseless. >> i think they will probably say that. but i don't blame them because we're doing the same th...

Multiple injuries. there's something wrong. the only thing i can say is we have to work together to get rid of it. i'd like you to put my trauma center out of business. >> wow. this tragedy of course this morning came on the heels of the nra-backed recall. both senators who supported gun legislation. and a hostile right wing in the congress. so today's events offer any additional hope for tougher gun laws? big question. joining me now is sam stein and mark glaze. i want to start with you, mark, because you're out there advocating on behalf of your principal mike bloomberg and others. working t...

Colorado. or try to not elect you in the first place. they will be motivated by a singular issue. >> let me talk about this thing with mark. what about the nra and what do you think -- how many days will pass before they comment about what happened in washington today? the shooting of 12 people because they went to work that day, basically, at the navy yard. that's what they did. they went to work. some guy came to shoot people at work. what are the nra going to say about this? it's senseless beyond senseless. >> i think they will probably say that. but i don't blame them because we're doing b...