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Welcome back. we'll continue to follow the big story this hour. a federal grand jury approves the first charges in robert mueller's investigation of russian meddling in the 2016 election. we could see any person charged taken into custody as early as monday. let's discuss this with avery freeman, a civil rights attorney and law professor. and richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor joining us from las vegas. good to see you both. >> good to see you, fredricka. >> so this grabbnd jury accord politico customarily meets on friday so that may explain a decision on a ...

I read, general flynn, he's doing the right thing and you cannot infer because he pled the fifth guilt. you cannot do that, fred, he should be doing that right now. he's the question -- the question is to what extent will it apply to documents. that's the next decision here. flynn was in that room with kushner and in that meeting. maybe now we are seeing more information why the president is so in n-- flynn has some informn pretty devastating to not only the president but kushner. we'll see what happens. >> yeah, there is a lot of different ways there is some sort of protection that the presid...

Three are carter page, paul manafo manafort, and roger stone. page who has appeared on cnn many times has already said that he will not cooperate and ensuggested the committee get the information from former president barack obama. avery freeman is a civil rights attorney with me. the grand jury subpoenas indicate that the investigation continues. so what in your view, richard, does this signal? >> it signals that they are closing in on these, especially flynn. when his lawyer reached out in march and claimed he has a story to tell, to me that was a little sign of weakness there because at a m...

Someone or you let them go. that's not -- it may not be a direct violation of the law and certainly, attorney general sessions, and the trump administration, they don't have the inherent authority to make that ultimate adjudication whether or not the law has been violated. all of these cities, fred, will comply with a letter, a written letter, saying by june 30th, yes, we're in compliance, and we believe compliance is as follows. so they'll send that in. and that should be enough to set the stage for litigation. that's what's coming here. >> richard herman, flying solo today, our other partner...

Professor, so what's the answer? what's the bottom line? and the professor usually laughs at you. there is no bottom line. there's a discussion. that's rationale. there are different sides. here, there's no clean cut, 100% answer one way or the other. avery gave you a good rationale and the discussion behind it. but the overriding principle is simply this. did this somehow protect the national interests of the united states? if the answer to that is no, then this was domestically illegal. if the answer to that was yes, then it was legal. and it's only legal for a short term, 90-day max. he wil...