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Even change the name of the plane, putting it into an aviation version of the witness protection program with a new identity. but i think passengers will resist for some time. but that's part of boeing's job on the ill and elsewhere, is to really convince them not only that they have fixed the problem, but that they deserve our trust. and i'm not sure the hill's convinced and i know the public isn't convinced. >> just very briefly, yes or no, for poppy and myself and others who might be listening, should we feel comfortable flying on this plane? >> well, not yet. and st going to depend what th...

For flying in new york city. and 500-foot ceiling in midtown manhattan is particularly hazardous, of course. our twin engine augusta 109 took off from the west side heliport in the 30s in manhattan. it's based at lyndon, new jersey, which is very dloes newark airport. where it was headed is unclear, but we're told it was not in communication with air traffic control. now, that ant face of it is pretty routine. helicopters taking off and landing at those heliports are basically on the aviation version of a party line. they all just talk to each other and stay out of each other's way by self-rep...