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Not by the federal government although the federal government could stick their foot in if they could find some fraud and it was big, blatant enough. this may turn out to be. that >> in that instance, the way you're talking about that second bucket. any state attorney general in a state where trump donor made a donation on the basis of false claims, thinking that they were donating, for example to a fund that didn't exactly exist, the money went to kimberly instead. a state attorney general in a state where a donor was aggrieved for having made that donation, that kind of case could be filed a...

Were on the night of the election, november the 3rd? >> i was at the white house. >> can you describe the atmosphere, what were people expecting that night, when you got to the white house? >> i think that there was, typically for people who show up there, on election night. it's going to be a self select, more positive environment. i think people were a little bit nervous not knowing what's gonna happen with the right way, or the red mirage, as the debate was being carried out. >> the fox news decision desk is calling arizona for joe biden. that is a big get for the biden campaign. >> arizona...

Years, i've spanned political ideologies to from trump to mccain to bush to christie. i can work under a lot of circumstances, a lot of very candidates and politicians but the situation where, i think along the way i've built up a pretty good reputation for being honest and professional. i don't think what was happening was necessarily honest or professional. that led to this. >> the president did get rid of team normal and i would like to play a clip showing that the president found people he needed to perpetuate his claims of fraud. >> there is a big truck bringing in 100,000 ballots in

It as his director, and the director of national intelligence. and i found notes of this [inaudible] i was in the car. i pulled over. and -- >> [inaudible] they go to a press conference. they grabbed rate. and they announced the potential for election interference. and it all happened -- so we're focused on the way that he was calling it rigged, but it wasn't the only thing that he suggested. and then, when you look at the things that still rows of the other oath keepers are claiming their defenses, they were waiting for trump to invoke the insurrection act, marcia law. with a committee's pote...

Judgment, what were the chances of president trump winning the election? >> after that point? >> yes. >> no, i mean, i guess it's always possible that you could have, you know, a truckload of ballots being found somewhere else i suppose. but once you get into this space, you know, ahead of today, i thought about one of the largest margins that could come, that could ever be overturned by a recount. in a recount, you're talking about hundreds of votes. when we think about calling a race, one of the things that we would think about is, is it outside the margin of a recount? and when we think abo...