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>> and lonnie, we keep saying this is an off year election. sort of sleepy elections. there's only state measures on the ballot. if that's part of the story for 2020, is it the level of enthusiasm among democrats that seems unprecedented especially if you look at virginia? >> yeah, i think vurj virj is a challenging state for republicans that's been trending away. donald trump lost the state by five points back in 2016. so, there are a lot of reasons why i think republicans will try to look at virginia and maybe discount it a little bit. the challenge here again though is where republicans are...

Increase your political power. so, now that we have basically the trifecta where we have a democratic governor, both houses of state, the people who draw those lines will be in a sense unfettered. they'll draw lines that are very favorable to democrats not just now but going forward. that's important for congressional races. that's important for presidential races. and i think that you'll see throughout the country people will start to key in to this idea of who is controlling the drawing of these legislative district lines. just this last june, the supreme court said federal courts have no bu...

Other than bevin the republican party is doing just fine in kentucky. that's what we see from the voter registration numbers from the other demographic numbers. so i think that president trump from here on out even when he's not on a ballot is on a ballot. when you have a governor bevin who's essentially taking the trump flag and wrapping himself around it, then certainly you have president trump on the ballot. but i think that, look, he did move the needle in that case. it wasn't enough. but i don't think in kentucky we can look and say oh there's a deep problem with republican voters. it's m...