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Next speaker of the house of the united states of america? >> i suppose. but keep in mind, again, as former congressman said, this is a small minority of the caucus. if the more moderates and traditional republicans in this caucus had any strategic vision they could actually influence this thing in a way that works to their benefit. it's just we haven't seen that strategic vision yet. and we're laughing about it and all that stuff. but this is like deeply serious stuff. this is the third in line for the presidency. we have a debt ceiling crisis that is imminent. and the speaker controls the ho...

United states of america? >> i suppose. but keep in mind, again, as former congressman said, this is a small minority of the caucus. if the more moderates and traditional republicans in this caucus had any strategic vision they could actually influence this thing in a way that works to their benefit. it's just we haven't seen that strategic vision yet. and we're laughing about it and all that stuff. but this is like deeply serious stuff. this is the third in line for the presidency. we have a debt ceiling crisis that is imminent. and the speaker controls the house floor. these aren't small sta...

That person. chuck? >> all right. katy tur. on the trail there. and to summarize the presidential candidates, trump sort of bragging and boastful about it. huckabee combative bush surprised graham fear and carson with the kudos. thanks very much. let's bring in joe scarborough to talk more about what donald trump called bedlam. i think that's a pretty good description right now, joe. it's pure bedlam. and this feels different. some people are going to say, oh, boehner is gingrich, mccarthy is livingston. they're searching for that back bencher, denny hastert who will suddenly come in and save ...

Their lives. i don't think that's a good idea. if that's the only way to move forward on it, i would explore it. >> we talk about your experience, as soon as you go out in the main stream media, liberal media they'll say why do you have the experience to be president? it didn't work out with well with senator obama coming president obama. >> first of all, president obama has been a fill failure. his ideas are bad. i don't care if he was in the senate for 50 years. his ideas don't work. there's a difference. i served nine years in the florida legislature in the majority, two speaker of the hous...

That you're, you know, too young and too inexperienced for the job. >> dana, i think there are two sharp distinctions between where i am today and where barack obama was when he launched his campaign. number one, in his time in the senate he had basically been a back bencher. he had not been leading on any issues of any significance. in my time in the senate you can accuse me of being a lot of things but a back bencher is not one of them. >> that may be true, but the big criticism of president obama especially as the years have gone on is that he didn't have any experience innen a executive fu...