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Thing. we're willing to freeze, have everything monitored, but no dismantling. how do you bridge those two positions? >> well, the reason we're here, of course, is because of the tremendous pressure that's been put on the iranian economy through the u.s.-led sanctions effort. president rouhani took a stand in the article you referenced, but there's going to have to be roll back of the program. they will have to ensure the international community to solid ways they're not pursuing a nuclear weapon and that -- >> do you think it would mean rolling back centrifuges? >> it will have to be a compre...

That it cannot have the kind of breakout capacity that -- he says we are not going to dismantle a single thing, we're willing to freeze, we're willing to have everything monitored, but no dismantling, how do you bridge those two positions? >> the reason we're here is the enormous pressure that was put on -- president rowhani took a max mallist stand. they're going to have to assure the international community in very concrete, verifiable and solid ways that they're not working on a nuclear weapon. >> that means rolling back centrifuges? >> i think that would mean rolling back parts of the prog...