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And it's disruptive and unpredictable and better be careful what i do. at the same time i think he is saying wow, we have china involved now and you united states said they don't want regime change. that's a good thing for china. i think he is getting hemmed in. i don't think that we have been successful trying the overt diplomatic approach without walking softly and carrying a big stick. >> how different is this method of back channels that the u.s. can and is exercising that rex tillerson, the secretary of state is explaining. how different is that than what you have seen exercised in previo...

Breaking you news on the status of edward snowden, the nsa leaker trying to make his way to ecuador. >> a source familiar with the case does confirm to drn that his u.s. passport was revoked. so it raises immediate questions how did he get out of hong kong and how is he traveling around the world. at least in moscow. >> tom fuentes, what does that mean? he's a man without a passport. >> the possibilities are that even despite the law, twhe two countries may have agreed let him get out of hong kong. i think that's probably what has been going on, a lot of back channel activity between the two c...