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Communities will not come forward and talk about the violence in communities if they feel that sheriffs are going to come in and become i.c.e. agents. we are less secure. >> when you talk about the base, is it not amazing we all watched the same press conference, yet two groups of people saw the exact -- it wasn't like the outcome of a game. the two exact opposite presentations, how have we gotten here? >> it's this often polarization we have where people see the same reality and interpret it differently. people don't have media literacy. they can't make a distinction about something that is f...

And our political justice correspondent that indeed michael flynn did speak about russia's sanctions with the ambassador. obviously the u.s. has been monitoring russian diplomats calls, that's routine eavesdropping, but also part of this wider investigation about russia's activities in this election. so those claims by mike flynn obviously falling flat, and he is back pedalling on them right now, saying he can't really recall, he can't remember, but he can't rule out that it came up. >> outfront now, senator bernie sanders, thank you for joining us tonight. if general flynn was lying that time...

The black lives matter activists. he said for him, it's not something that he wants to -- >> but, you see, you can't -- >> one of the pasters said that's more important. he said to donald trump, what's more important is that the person who is now at 16 hurn pennsylvania avenue deals with that issue rather than donald trump and -- >> yeah, but you can't pick audiences and shift messages. so if you were on msnbc -- i think it was this morning that i read this. and say basically black lives matter, people might have gotten to some of these pasters and that's why they were backing away from him, y...

Explain donald trump? i have no idea. i'm here so i better try. >> the respondents. what are they seeing? >> tough be kidding me. when i saw donald trump and heard him say what he said those horrific things about mexican immigrants i thought, there it is we finally see who donald trump really is. most of us knew. people say, oh a candidate who says what he thinks. i'm thinking you are kidding me? my analysis is this people are tired, most people or many people those in the republican primary, are tired of people who try to figure out what they want to hear. at least trump says what he thinks. ...

Charlottesville. will, welcome. >> thank you for having me, brooke. >> i know you're in the thick of this. you've been doing advocacy work for four years. your reaction to "rolling stone" back pedalling on this story. >> i think it shows a lot about sort of the media and how to handle questions like this. and i think it really, for me, you know, put a damper on any positive spin that we were all taking out of this issue. i'm still committed to working for it and i think a lot of people on our grounds are still committed to working for it. >> so, you could say that this could set your organizat...