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Background check forms, that could spark a criminal investigation in which law enforcement could use the full extent of its legal powers. joining our discussion now, mimi roca, a former assistant district attorney in new york and a former hs nmsnbc analyst. >> i think there were four categories right off the back the fbi is probably going to focus on with respect to the ford allegation. the first is mark judge. a probing interview needs to be conducted of mark judge. i think kavanaugh said during hearing fbi agents don't draw conclusions, yes. but they interview people every single day and do ...

But even with those limitations, lying to the fbi is a federal crime, and that applies to everyone who does agree to talk to them. and as "the washington post" report, if investigators uncover evidence that kavanaugh lied to lawmakers during the hearings or on his background check forms, that could spark a criminal investigation in which law enforcement could use the full extent of its legal powers. joining us now is frank montoya, former fbi special agent. mr. montoya, thank you so much for being here. good to have you with us. >> great to be here, joy. >> so let's just walk us -- for the lay...

Shootin shooting. >> i think a conceal permit for having teachers and letting people know there are people in the building with a gun. you won't have, in my opinion, you won't have shootings. these people are cowards. they will not walk into the school if 20% of the teachers have guns. the people that do carry, we give them a bonus. >> the bonus for teachers. now the white house says the proposal has not reached the policy or legislative stage yet. a spokesman was unable to say where the money for training or bonuses would come from. overnight, the new york times is reporting that the justice ...

Get a bonus. >> it has not reached a policy or legislative stage yet. they were not able to say where the money would come from. the new york times reporting that the justice department plans to crack down on prospective gun buyers who lieu -- who lie on the background check forms. this is a way to reform existing gun laws. for a way to a solution, let's bring in jeff zeleny at the white house. >> reporter: president trump wants to do what his predecessors have been unable to do. that is some type of action on guns. he held the second listening session with the state and local officials on t...

Adviser. katie pavlich is the editor at townhall.com and a fox news contributor. katie, the hot topic, michael flynn, and they seem to press on no matter how many times mr. spicer said hey, look, that was a long time ago, these papers happened before he came to the white house, basically we don't know anything. >> i think it's becoming increasingly clear that michael flynn should have never been hired by the administration. he was very dishonest in a number of ways. when he filled out his background check forms which is alarming considering the closeness he had with president trump. he served ...