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Investigation that jared kushner has many, many strikes lining up against him in the mueller investigation. and the subtext here is part of the things that have led to the rejection of his being eligible for a security clearance are also part of mueller's investigation, particularly aspects that have to do with perhaps monetizing his position in the white house during the transition, trying to shore up his failing business enterprises while at the same time doing business on behalf of the trump administration. >> back now with our panel. this is i guess more of a hypothetical. but if something...

His failing business enterprises while at the same time doing business on behalf of the trump administration. >> back now with our panel. this is i guess more of a hypothetical. but if something is discovered in a background check process, let's say on jared kushner, is that something that would be referred to the mueller team? >> well, the background check is being done by the fbi as the team on the mueller investigation is also part of the fbi. so it is possible that information could be shared. but as a rule, the background checks are usually sort of walled off. that being said, if there wa...

What is her legal exposure? what has she told mueller? what has she told congress, perhaps, that has been contradictory, that has exposed her? i don't know the answer to that. i don't think any of us know the answer to that, but a departure under these circumstances with the cloud of this investigation hanging over this white house raises that very question. >> and this is the white house, we've over used the word disarray so i'm not going to use it. but this is white house literally crumbling under the weight of its own incompetence, its own inade background checks. the reason the background ...

>> the attorney general affirming his commitment to the integrity and supporting the constitution, that's what attorney generals are supposed to do. i think at the end of the day, this it will work out and send a message to the american public that the integrity of the operation is intact. >> i appreciate your responding to that breaking news. now we'll get to the initial topic we were going to discuss, which is whether or not there's going to be any new gun safety regulation passed. i want to get your response to one of your republican colleagues from florida who's calling for a ban on the sa...

Did the locals miss 39 phone calls that basically brought them to this young man's doorstep and didn't figure out a way to interdict this? absolutely. did our mental health system, hipaa issues, did that go into this mix as well? there's not a single issue. there's a lot of things that need to be looked at. but as i keep hearing from folks on both sides of the aisle, if not now, when? we've got act on this. >> and i want to talk more about the politics of all of this with april and alice, as well. everyone talks about the strengthening of background checks, which is important. but it's also im...