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Donald trump has pumped them up. but they need women. they need the moderate republican women that they got in 2016 to put him over the top. so in terms of how you're going to target these suburban women, we know from a survey that was just done last month, that gun control is the top issue of concern for suburban women. so it's not just that republicans are against gun control. maybe a section of them, the more conservative ones, but the more moderate ones want gun control. so politically speaking, this is in the camp of the democrats. >> why does a universal background check have to be a dem...

The 10 worst mass shootings have happened during his time in office. so the problem is not getting any better. but do you think expanded background checks or universal background checks would stop some of these? >> there's all kinds of things that we could do to the current background check regime to make it more effective, more efficient. it's a better position of the fbi to utilize their resources in an effective way. the background check system, people tend to talk about background checks as if it's a consistent and easily done activity. it is not. it's a bit of a patchwork. the fbi conduct...

>> what about high capacity magazines? >> you can possibly get traction for that as well but it's not like bump stocks, very few people have them. there's a lot of people who have that so there's some resistance to that as well. the problem with universal background checks, they're often mentioned, the problem is they're not well defined. we're talking about the only people not captured by a background check regime right now are private individuals selling to other private individuals, there's a high likelihood you simply cannot regulate a private individual selling a legal item to another pri...

Of longheld positions because the president, who is popular with the republican base, embraced it. to susan's point on high-capacity magazines, i don't think that is going to be a topic that is going to be tackled here. i just think legislatively it's difficult. i do. and you might not think it should be. but i think a lot of republicans would see that as a step too far. whether it is or not is up to your own view. but i do think the way -- the thing that could get done out of this incident, if donald trump supports it and continues to support it, is some sort of background check, i don't know...