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>> the president said the fbi doesn't want to be involved in this. i mean, is that. >> i would find that shocking to know that the fbi was not have had in doing that which it does with every single judicial nomination to date. their job is to conduct the background inquiry to figure out if this person has any skeletons in their closet. you saw this happen with rob porter and every person they are charged with actually trying to find out, is there any reason to believe this person is not qualified and they hand that over. what the president is trying to do is be dismissive because it ended up i...

Or didn't happen. it's just stunning. just irony that his book that he's written. >> frank, i saw you nodding to some of what matt miller was talking about. i want to ask you in witness or potential witness get to opt out and should the senate judiciary committee run this like an investigation and require his participation? >> let's back up a second. i think this is exactly why the white house should request the fbi to do what they do best. finish their investigation, their background inquiry. we're hearing mr. judge say he prefers not -- he has no desire to testify publicly. we're still needi...

Or qatar or israel. that all need to stop so there is no undue influence. >> do you think that jared kushner should have clearance? can he effectively do his job without it? >> two questions there. should very his clearance? what sam says is absolutely right. but in addition, i would add that the fbi has told the white house that there are substantial law enforcement issues that they are investigating and they cannot proceed to give him a clearance until they resolve those things. these are not as the president seemed to indicate just complex financial dealings of a very wealthy man and these ...