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For the first time tonight. this is obviously somebody who believes she has information that is of use to the fbi's inquiries and she has been frustrated in her effort to reach them and they don't want to hear it. what is your reaction? >> all of this is surprising. it defies anything i know about in terms of experiences whether it is a criminal investigation or a background investigation where, if people have information to volunteer, that the fbi is not welcoming it. it's not including it in its reports and assessing it. and if, you know, necessary, following up on it. so, it doesn't make a ...

About brett kavanaugh and so the challenge there is relevance. but at the same time this whole background process is to determine if there is derogatory information that indicates the candidate for the job is not suitable. >> in terms of finding that derogatory information, obviously this is not a criminal investigation. this is a background investigation. the client here, we keep being told, is the white house and this is about figuring out if somebody is suitable for a big job promotion basically. but we have these reports now from christine blasey ford that she's never spoken to the fbi des...

Not, correct? >> either you believe the sworn testimony of three individuals or rather the statements they have delivered under penalty of felony and judge brett kavanaugh or you believe this dr. ford's account. i agree that you can't square the two of them. but it is very clear that judge brett kavanaugh's a clear. it's consistent. his calendars do provide some circumstanti circumstantial evidence of his account. three individuals have given sworn statements under penalty of felony, including a lifelong friend of dr. ford's all say their recollections are consistent with judge brett kavanaugh...

For example, mark judge, who is alleged to have been in the room, that's the first person the fbi will want to talk to. another question, ali, will this inquiry be limited in scope just to the dr. ford allegations or look at the ramirez and swetnick allegations? that has to be worked out. >> greg, that's an interesting point. judge kavanaugh and the republicans on the committee kept on saying the fbi does not determine culpability or guilt in these investigations. but to ken's point the specific questions that are being asked, the when did this happen, where did it happen, who was there, what ...

Assault, or somehow that's an exculpatory issue in any way. what message did americans -- the most deliberative body in america today as we rush to a vote tomorrow before witnesses are called in, before investigations are done, before corroborating evidence is evaluated, this is a very painful day and a very sad day for our country. >> senator cory booker again, after a very long day, i thank you for making time this evening. >> thank you. i want to turn to bob bower. you were in the position to oversee judicial nominations, and that process. what did you think about what happened today? >> ...