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alive, what goes through your mind? >> it's heartbreaking. it's heartbreaking, because we never see anything like this in this community. it's hard for the families that lost a loved one to this tragedy. >> reporter: when you see this happen perhaps way too many times in our country, what do you ask yourself? what do you wonder needs to happen? >> i believe the government needs to get tougher laws on purchasing of guns. that's my main thing. >> reporter: that's not a new thought after this? >> no. i've always thought about it. they have to be strict on who owns a weapon. >> reporter:...

Probably not legitimate. from that point, you make an assessment. it's a a specific threat. who is judging that. if it's a school administrator, you have a person who is well intentioned who is worried. i get that. maybe they don't have the necessary background training and experience to say this one we take seriously, this one perhaps not. >> if you close schools is that a domino effect? >> every year the kids take the s.a.t. on a saturday morning. you know how many schools get bomb threats? close a school and cancel the test. you can't do that. you have to take them separate. >>. it's sad bu...

>> those people in the village who thought they might feel secure might have a reason to worry. >> i see this a lot too, brian and elisabeth. the confusing of access control with security. what do i mean? a ticket to a baseball game or football game san access control device but not a security device. there has to be training and understand the rules of engagement if someone shows up with a ticket that is not legitimate. i don't know if there was the necessary background training, how to read the magnetometers. >> if we want to see our athletes do well, should we be there? should we go? >> yea...

It down in law enforcement terms the aggressor or your subject and the officer. civilian terms the aggressor and the defender. okay. what you do is you look at the various levels of options available to that individual taking into consideration a wide variety of topics ranging from personal information, subject factors like their age, height, weight, things like that. moving through background training, experience, weapon availability, environment considerations. all these things come into a force continuum, which is a structured way of saying if i were to do "a," you would be permitted to do ...

>> i actually reached out to mr. o'mara when i saw the case unfolding obviously like erchs every one else. i reached out to him because i thought i had a unique perspective as to coming to a reallistic conclusion on things. being able to proffer and look at things and just render my background training and experience to him to see if it helped. my experience has been i wanted to ensure -- the most common question, i reach out to a defense attorney as a police officer or a former police officer, and the truth is there are a lot of people that can do what i do -- there is plenty of experts avail...